Racist?

Really?!Surely women have certain characteristics that are generally very different to characteristics of men.I agree that you should be careful about generalising and be open-minded to the fact that specific individuals may not follow all the general characteristics of their gender, but nevertheless women brought up in a specific environment will be likely to possess characteristics that are very different from men brought up in the same environment.This is very different to ethnicity, where you should not expect people of different races to be inherently different if they are brought up within the same environment (except, of course, where they may be affected by racial attitudes etc within that environment).

Sexually yes, but in other regards there is no difference.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

So saying someone is black, because they are black, isn't racist.

Tell me the last time you saw a black man? I never have. Very dark brown yes but black, no. The same for white. I have never seen a white man. Some shade of pinkish tan (flesh) yes but white, no. That is why I say Homo sapiens the differences are simply minor. I am not saying simply calling a man black, white or anything else is racist.but most who bring attention to act as if the words are blackman, or whiteman with emphasis on the adjective, rather than the noun, black man or white man.Edited by bluescat48, : as typical typos (im the woilds woist typiiisty

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Feel free to prove me wrong.

With joy..Before I go on, I feel the need to point out the irony of this statement. Later in your post, you attempt to point out a logical fallacy in one of my statements (and openly so), yet your first statement after agreeing to the proposed definition of "racism" is the most clear example of the argument from ignorance I have seen in a while.
Very well.. I can play the fallacy game too.Fallacies commited in your reply: 1
argumentum ad ignorantiam

None of which you are apparently willing to mention.

Because my subjective rationality for my statement doesn't need to be mentioned as it is not part of my argument, it is simply an irrilevant opinion.Do you wish me to explain my opinionated statement? I can..Do you believe my opinion needs to be argued objectivly? If so, why?
If not, why bother pointing it out?Fallacies commited in your reply: 2
Ad hominem (Poisoning the Well)
Non sequitur

Evlreala said: We are not all the same, to claim so is an ignorant proposal. ​ Dr Adequate said: And has nothing to do with what bluescat actually said. ​ bluescat said: in other words if a person attaches a group name to any group of humans he is a racist. ​ To be a non-racist he would have to agree that all humans are the same, which they are Homo sapiens

Now.. I'm not seeing where your contention with my statement lies..
Care to point out where "To be a non-racist he would have to agree that all humans are the same, which they are Homo sapiens" is clairified to fit your views?I freely admit, my understanding of things is certainly not absolute and I very well could be in error.. Simply stating so does nothing, where is the part I have missed?Fallacies in your reply: 2
Non sequitor
Irrelevant conclusion

And would also be another complete non sequitur.

How? Explain how a colloquil slogan emphasizing celebrating diverisity of all people over ignoring differances is a non sequital statement in a discussion over ignoring diversity in favor of "agree that all humans are the same"?Fallacies in your reply: 1
Irrelevant conclusion

I'm guessing that since you are so angry and irrational and incoherent on the subject of race, you're a racist. 'Cos no-one but a racist needs to be so irrational and incoherent about this subject.

1) I'm not angry. Remember what they say about assumptions... Any evedence to support your claim?
2) I fail to see how I am being irrational, do you have evidence to support your claim, or is it just conjecture?
3) Incoherent? Once again, I must ask if you have evedence to support your claim, or is it just conjecture? You seem able to understand my post just fine.. At least enough to complain about its context.Now, the "coup de grace" based on (as of yet unsubstantiated) conjecture, and (also as of yet unsubstantiated)direct attacks on my character, you make a bad argument and conclude I must be a racist..I'm going to assume this was meant either in jest (a sense of humor is always welcome, in my book) , malice ( childish and sad..), or somewhere between the two.. Because I honestly don't believe you would make such an idiotic argument in all seriousness.All the same.. Your argument failsFallacies in your reply: 9
Irrelevant conclusion
Ad hominem (direct) x3
Ad hominem (Poisoning the Well) X2
Non sequitur
Strawman
red herring
I'm positive I've missed some.. mostly out of lack of caring..Total fallacy count in post: 15Feel free to suport your claims. =D

So in what way are humans different other than appearance and views?

Define views.I shouldn't even address this question, its irrelevant. You might as well be asking whats the difference between a red and a green apple without mentioning color or taste. Remove enough characteristics and a house cat is the same exact thing as a clone of maryln monroe.Some differences are..cultural background
ethnic identities
biology (most common examples would be sickle cell anemia, twinning rates, and rate of genetic deformaties)
sexual selection...Just off o the top of my head...Despite your insistance that we ignore them, unique morphiological traits do exist in reality.

But in no way do any of the above traits mean that they are any different. The same way that a Great Dane and a Poodle are different but still the same Canis domestica

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

There is a difference between identifying fallacies and randomly naming them, and I would commend this difference to your study.

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in other words if a person attaches a group name to any group of humans he is a racist.

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To be a non-racist he would have to agree that all humans are the same, which they are Homo sapiens

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Hi Bluescat,that's far too wide a definition. If I call Inuit people Inuit is that racist? Likewise lawyers, French people, history graduates - etc.Racism not about attaching names (unless they are derogatory names). It is about believing that some humans are less valuable than others because of race or nationality.

Well if it's any consolation, I've experienced my own one-drop rule by marrying a Puerto Rican. It would seem certain people no longer consider me white.But really, why would Obama call himself black when he has a white mother? Wasn't his mother the one who really took care of him? It's almost like denying it in a way.I am of mixed heritage, so when people ask what I am, I say ...American.

That does not make you a racist, that makes you prejudice. There are many who think like you in this forum.I have a problem with that. You guys are lumping people together by their beliefs. I may not agree with most of a raging liberals views, but that does not automatically mean all raging liberals deserve to be hated by me.It's very narrow minded of you.Just like many in this forum. They claim to be open minded, and scientific minded, but they aren't when they speak. It's classic hypocrisy.

I am having trouble figureing out why you care what these fools on here think about you and your views.How can a black man come out of a white vagina? how can a man be black when his mother and the people who raise him are white. he has no black culture, and aside from looking in the mirror, really has nothing to be "black" about. Let those who feel like we have progressed, think they have a "black" president. I know a wolf in sheep's clothing when I see one.

Tell me the last time you saw a black man? I never have. Very dark brown yes but black, no. The same for white. I have never seen a white man. Some shade of pinkish tan (flesh) yes but white, no.

You are aware though that such things as white and black people do exist, and that they have different physical features distinguishig them from one another, yes?

That is why I say Homo sapiens the differences are simply minor.

Of course, only skin deep, as the saying goes.

I am not saying simply calling a man black, white or anything else is racist.

That is what you said. You may not have meant it the way it was stated, but that's why I'm clarifying that now. Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

Not by beliefs, but by action. Every group I have listed treats those of other persuasions as either second class citizens, abominations, or are out only for themselves and not for all mankind. I have yet to meet any of the above groups who isn't.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Ye4s different "physical"features and those within a particular group have different physical features also ie:Hair color, eye color, size, shape, hair distribution, mouth shape, head shape, etc. My point is no matter what the differences are they are minor.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

If you read what he wrote before his presidential speeches became antiseptic and politically correct, it reveals his deepest beliefs. He seems to identify with adversity and martyrdom. Even though his father abandoned him, his leftist beliefs make it so that his blackness comes shining through.Whatever the case is, his politics are shit. I'm more concerned with the ideologies he's fostered than his whiteness or blackness or mulato-ness. Yeah, it's popular in America to be an hyphen-American. Perhaps it is more divisive to categorize ourselves.

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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal