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Author Topic:   It's a World Cup year!
Artemis Entreri 
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Message 196 of 291 (566418)
06-24-2010 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-24-2010 10:40 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
i probably shouldn't reply because you probably won't get it, but they were mad at Bruno for messing with thier tradition, and interefering with the Tides' cheer team. Football is very serious in the SEC. Of course you are probably trying to say there is some anti-gay sentimate, but if you are this a poor example, because that is not what is going on in your video at all.

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Huntard
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Message 197 of 291 (566431)
06-24-2010 4:19 PM


And another win
Yep, we wrote up another one.
Unbeaten into the next round. Slovakia, prepare yourself!

  
caffeine
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Message 198 of 291 (566514)
06-25-2010 4:17 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Hyroglyphx
06-24-2010 10:18 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
You would never see a Nazi Swastika at any major sport event in the United States. We have neo-nazi's, but they are generally driven far underground to rural places. To be at a mainstream sport behaving that way would be suicide.
And doing it in the wrong stand in Europe could easily get you killed. Like I said, it's not that expressions of support for Nazism are less tabboo here (they're illegal in a lot of countries), but that there is a link between football hooliganism and the far right.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 199 of 291 (566521)
06-25-2010 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by onifre
06-24-2010 3:04 PM


Re: Soccer at its best
They weren't mad at him for being gay, they were mad at him for acting like a ridiculous asshole. Sooo far less humorous than Borat.
I totally agree that Bruno wasn't nearly as funny as Borat. It was a very weak and contrived attempt to cash in on the Borat success, and it's hard to laugh at a character you can't like at all.
I think most British people see cheerleaders as ridiculous and very camp, and I think that was part of the point he was making, aside from the obvious sexism. However, I take the points made about American sports culture and tradition. God knows we have enough ridiculous and camp traditions of our own. We're now having to endure all the bowing and curtseying to royalty at Wimbledon. Personally, I'd love to see Bruno in there in a ball girl uniform (not for that reason!), but I guess that wouldn't go down well with a lot of tennis fans. Or then again, who knows? If a bird lands on Centre Court, most tennis fans laugh their heads off as if it's the most hilarious moment of all time.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 200 of 291 (566525)
06-25-2010 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-25-2010 6:17 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
aside from the obvious sexism.
because there was more men cheering in that video than women?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 201 of 291 (566544)
06-25-2010 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by caffeine
06-25-2010 4:17 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
there is a link between football hooliganism and the far right.
Yeah, I'll buy that. All right, so which club has the most notoriously insane hooligans in all of Europe? I want a death toll or some shit.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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caffeine
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Message 202 of 291 (566549)
06-25-2010 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by Hyroglyphx
06-25-2010 8:53 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
Yeah, I'll buy that. All right, so which club has the most notoriously insane hooligans in all of Europe? I want a death toll or some shit.
The most notorious are definitely from Turkey and Russia. Galatasaray are the most famous Turkish team for hooliganism in Britain, but that's because a few English fans have been stabbed during away games with Galatasaray - not sure if they're actually the worst. In Russia it doesn't seem to matter which club - hooliganism and football go hand in hand.
Some Yugoslavian clubs are a bit notorious as well, because it all ties in with the ethnic tensions there. The Belgrade clubs all have reputations for far-right nationalist supporters who ar up for a good scrap with foreigns, Jew clubs and teams from the semi-autonomous north (as well as each other).
Hooliganism in England has died down a lot nowadays, but there are still a few clubs in Britain with dangerous reputations. I don't know if it's true, but I remember being told that at least one person gets stabbed, on average, in connection with every Old Firm derby (that's Glasgow Celtic v. Glasgow Rangers). These happen four times a season.
Not got many statistics for you, but I did find the Ten Worst Football Riots. The crazy Sicillians are the only ones to bring explosives into the mix, but Liverpool-Juventus still wins in body count.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 203 of 291 (566554)
06-25-2010 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Artemis Entreri
06-25-2010 6:43 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
JUC says:
aside from the obvious sexism.
Artemis says:
because there was more men cheering in that video than women?
No. Because cheerleaders are all scantily clad attractive young women. Why not have a bunch of scantily clad men, gay or straight, leading the cheering for their team?
But from what you and Oni have said, I accept the fact that, although they may appear ridiculous to my eyes and ripe for making fun of, I understand that they are obviously an integral part of American sports culture, and that may explain, at least in part, why the crowd was so upset.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 204 of 291 (566571)
06-25-2010 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by caffeine
06-25-2010 9:27 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
The most notorious are definitely from Turkey and Russia.
Well, their national teams aren't so great, so I guess it's good that their fans are good at something
Thanks Caffeine, that was very thorough.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 205 of 291 (566572)
06-25-2010 11:51 AM


Calling all Canadians
I'm just wondering if Football (Soccer) is about as popular there as it is in the US. It seems to have the same lacking fanbase. Can someone confirm that?
And also, do Canadians refer to the sport as soccer or football? I would imagine soccer, because you guys have your own Canadian Football League.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Taz
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Message 206 of 291 (566573)
06-25-2010 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Hyroglyphx
06-25-2010 11:51 AM


Re: Calling all Canadians
Canada airs the matches for free for its citizens, so I'm guessing it is a lot more popular there. In fact, the US is the only country in the world that doesn't air the matches for free. You either have to watch online at espn3, buy cable, or only catch 6 games on abc. This is an embarrassment!
I've been watching the matches on espn3.

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Straggler
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Message 207 of 291 (566576)
06-25-2010 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Huntard
06-23-2010 4:21 PM


Nail Biter
The Germans are through as well, and will be facing England in the next round.
AAAaaaaaAAAArrrrGGGGGGGhhhhHHHHHH!
That is what every England fan didn't want to hear whilst simultaneously being desperate for it to happen.
That should be quite a game to watch.
Ze Germans and us have history. Footballing, political and military. And it all gets dragged up by our over-zealous press in the worst possible way. And that makes the whole thing even bigger. Sunday will be massive.
If the England team cannot pull their fingers out of their collective arses and be inspired by playing Germany in the world cup then they don't deserve to be there anyway. The only problem is that the Germans have a habit of finding that inspiration and just edging it over us. My heart says 2-1 England, My head says 1-0 Germany.
Even if we do win it will probably be Argentina next. We have history with them too.
The tension mounts........ (I have no finger-nails left as it is and cannot see them growing back by Sunday)

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Straggler
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Message 208 of 291 (566577)
06-25-2010 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-22-2010 4:39 AM


Re: North Korea and The Truth
Brilliant.
Robert Green was shot at dawn the next day, for humiliating the nation by failing to win the match in normal time.
Another grassy knoll incident? The curse of all England goalkeepers.
And now, the weather...
A heavy front of good natured banter with pockets of ironic cynicism wafting across from Europe will cause unsettled periods in The South Africa region. This will be tempered by cheery optimism from the high pressure zone pushing across from South America.

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Straggler
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Message 209 of 291 (566606)
06-25-2010 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by onifre
06-24-2010 3:04 PM


Re: Soccer at its best
Personally a "soccer" match isn't worth watching unless I have my tutu on and am allowed to do the sugar plum fairy dance around the pub for the duration of the national anthems.
As for cheerleading - They didn't let me on the team so I will forever hate them.
Apparently my legs were not up to standard.

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onifre
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Message 210 of 291 (566653)
06-25-2010 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Straggler
06-25-2010 2:37 PM


Re: Soccer at its best
Personally a "soccer" match isn't worth watching unless I have my tutu on and am allowed to do the sugar plum fairy dance around the pub for the duration of the national anthems.
You too?!
As for cheerleading - They didn't let me on the team so I will forever hate them.
Apparently my legs were not up to standard.
You didn't miss much. The guys on the cheerleading squad just got to hang out with the hottest girls in the school, grab them and toss them around, lift them up by their crotch and stare up their skirts all day. How gay!
- Oni
And PS. How 'bout dem Spaniards!!!!

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