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CosmicChimp
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Message 181 of 424 (567254)
06-30-2010 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by cavediver
06-30-2010 9:04 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
I echo these ideas. He seemed to me to be someone trying to fake a persona or someone taking on a ill fitting new persona. The avatars are regularly changing and always have juxtaposed opposing elements.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 182 of 424 (567256)
06-30-2010 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by crashfrog
06-30-2010 1:50 AM


Re: Grammatical Perspective
It's possible, but I've already explained why it's unlikely, why the more charitable interpretation is flawed, and moreover a troll like NJ doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. He had, and exhausted, the benefit of the doubt the first time he engaged in gay-baiting and was politely asked to stop.
Why do you have such a hard-on for me, still? I guess I just don't understand how you can be this pissed about nothing. Because at the end of the day, your only real argument is that you were offended.
Well, okay... Do you not recall all the threads I created to apologize to people, even when I didn't think I had to? Some of you spit in my face even when I apologized! Do you not recall Berb and I had plans to meet for lunch in L.A.?
Look, I get it. I was a homophobe and a typical fundy. And I engaged in a shit-ton of controversial topics that pissed a lot of people off. But I did earn a lot of people's respect, even amongst those who pretty much despised my ideologies. More importantly, I didn't do what you're claiming I did.
If you hated NJ, I get it. That's fine. To be perfectly honest, I didn't give a shit then and I don't care now. I knew it came with the territory. And for how vile many people were to me, I rarely came unglued and I certainly didn't say anything like you and Berb and Dan were claiming.
Since I didn't do that, that's why I wasn't suspended. The only thing they could suspend me for was my Austin Powers joke. (I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist at the time! Someone else opened the door, I just walked in)
Anyway, so the bottom line is that you wanted to punish me for my unpopular beliefs about homosexuality. That's it. Well, even though I don't like homophobia, what I dislike even more is punishing people for their beliefs. This isn't North Korea, Crash. And the moderators are not tasked to be the Gestapo.
What do you want me to do? I apologized back then and I'll apologize now. But I know what I did say and what I didn;t say. Your accusations are baseless. I think it's just that you hate me, not that I had a seething hatred for homosexuals.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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nwr
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Message 183 of 424 (567259)
06-30-2010 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by Hyroglyphx
06-30-2010 9:08 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
Hyroglyphx writes:
It's the truth that I have NEVER compared homosexuals (whom I have no objections too whatsoever these days, I'm pleased to report) to pedophiles, incest, polygamy, zoophiles, yada, yada. The evidence is all documented, and it seems that I have been vindicated by people who didn't like my former self.
I never liked your former self. But I agree that you never compared homosexuals to other types. It seemed to me that you were respectful of people as individuals, but you were strongly against homsexuality. I did think you were a bit heavy handed, derailing several threads on the topic.
Hyroglyphx writes:
The part that really fucks with my head is that before I joined the forum I had what seems to be a genuine experience with God. To this day I can't say if it was real or if I had wanted it to be real.
It was just psychology.

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Taz
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Message 184 of 424 (567261)
06-30-2010 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Hyroglyphx
06-30-2010 9:22 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
Hyroglyphx writes:
I mean, didn't anyone wonder why someone who was allegedly not here for the old days had such a vested interest in defending someone he never met?!?!?!

No, because I didn't even notice you until this thread. I've been too busy with my life to notice anything not bleedingly obvious on the forum.
I'm just a little dumbfounded that someone like you could really stop being christian.
And being a skeptik, I still have my doubts that you're actually nem jug.
Edit.
How did you rack up thirteen hundred posts without any noticing your ip? Or did you move?
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 185 of 424 (567262)
06-30-2010 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by nwr
06-30-2010 10:55 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
Double post
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 186 of 424 (567263)
06-30-2010 11:29 AM
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06-30-2010 10:55 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
I never liked your former self. But I agree that you never compared homosexuals to other types. It seemed to me that you were respectful of people as individuals, but you were strongly against homsexuality. I did think you were a bit heavy handed, derailing several threads on the topic.
I can't disagree with anything you said. That's a fair and accurate depiction

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 187 of 424 (567264)
06-30-2010 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by Taz
06-30-2010 11:22 AM


Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
I'm just a little dumbfounded that someone like you could really stop being christian.
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
And being a skeptik, I still have my doubts that you're actually nem jug.
Well, lets look at the parallels.
  • Both Hyro and NJ were born in Miami, FL
  • Both Hyro and NJ are employed by the US Coast Guard.
  • Both Hyro and NJ lived in Portland, OR and San Pedro, CA contemporaneously.
  • NJ's email was hyroglyphx77@yahoo for a long time before I changed it. That coincidence would have been far too coincidental.
  • I've been making several veiled references to it, which have already been pointed out.
  • Both hyro and NJ are douchebags (probably the strongest parallel)

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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    cavediver
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    Message 188 of 424 (567265)
    06-30-2010 11:44 AM
    Reply to: Message 187 by Hyroglyphx
    06-30-2010 11:38 AM


    Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
    Both hyro and NJ are douchebags (probably the strongest parallel)
    You do realise that you've managed to derail yet another thread...?

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    dronestar
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    Message 189 of 424 (567268)
    06-30-2010 11:51 AM
    Reply to: Message 182 by Hyroglyphx
    06-30-2010 10:21 AM


    Re: Jackass Perspective
    From your Message 16:
    After reviewing the numerous debates (my head hurts from all the reading) that led up to the Great Purge a.k.a. "Night of the Broken Glass", I have concluded that you were as even-keeled then as you are now. I have not seen any deficiency in your decision, and I hardly think that Crashfrog is painting an accurate picture about what transpired.
    If you really are NJ in disguise, then that makes your "conclusion" above flagrantly disingenuous, making you STILL a rather dishonest/despicable person.
    From your Message 182:
    But I did earn a lot of people's respect, . . .
    Really?

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    Hyroglyphx
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    Message 190 of 424 (567271)
    06-30-2010 12:24 PM
    Reply to: Message 189 by dronestar
    06-30-2010 11:51 AM


    Re: Jackass Perspective
    If you really are NJ in disguise, then that makes your "conclusion" above flagrantly disingenuous, making you STILL a rather dishonest/despicable person.
    If I was an incredibly disingenuous and despicable person, I probably wouldn't have told the forum who I was.
    Make your own judgments though and assess the situation as best as you see fit. If you think I'm a piece of crap, you're certainly entitled to that opinion. You wouldn't be the first.

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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    Hyroglyphx
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    Message 191 of 424 (567272)
    06-30-2010 12:27 PM
    Reply to: Message 188 by cavediver
    06-30-2010 11:44 AM


    Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
    You do realise that you've managed to derail yet another thread...?
    Heh... What can I say, I guess I'm an habitual offender. Some habits are harder to break than others.

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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    crashfrog
    Member (Idle past 1467 days)
    Posts: 19762
    From: Silver Spring, MD
    Joined: 03-20-2003


    Message 192 of 424 (567274)
    06-30-2010 1:09 PM
    Reply to: Message 151 by AZPaul3
    06-30-2010 2:50 AM


    Re: Fuck Constructive - Answer the Question
    What's this continuing hard-on you have for this place, Crash?
    Interesting people, an effective and easy-to-use BB software, a subject focus that I'm interested in, and a set of clear and effective forum guidelines that promote highly informative discussion.
    After a three year absence you show up here pissing on everything, Mod, the other moderators, Percy, the forum and its members, everything.
    Again, you're saying much that just isn't so. I've not "pissed" on anything, either here or in GenDiscMod11. I've raised substantive issues I had with moderation and then defended my viewpoint. Percy, Mod, the rest of the moderator staff, and everybody else continue to have my respect as people.
    I'm just of the position that, in the specific case that Modulous opened this thread to talk about, mistakes were made.
    "Pissing"? Sorry, Paul, you're completely full of shit.
    To find out why you feel justified in storming in here after a three-year absence pissing on everyone.
    Since I've not done that - since literally no part of your characterization of this thread is accurate - what do you expect to get, here? I can't justify something I didn't actually do - to wit, I didn't "storm in", since I was already here, and I've not pissed on anybody.
    That's actually what you're doing, Paul.

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    onifre
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    Posts: 4854
    From: Dark Side of the Moon
    Joined: 02-20-2008


    Message 193 of 424 (567275)
    06-30-2010 1:11 PM
    Reply to: Message 172 by Hyroglyphx
    06-30-2010 9:08 AM


    Re: The Bombshell of Revelation
    Likewise, Oni asked me how I knew so much about EvC's past. I can't quite remember what I said, but they were big hints to anyone paying attention.
    Are you even from Miami you whore?! I feel violated, like when an animal is raped by another animal.
    You replied, when I said you got here after me, "It would seem that way."
    I always figured you were an old member, I just didn't care. I have read a lot of your old stuff, would have loved to debate your NJ alter-ego. But Hyro is fun too. I hope you don't get banned for this (or whatever happens to lying whores), whatever changes you've made personally still give you and your opinions an edge I enjoy debating.
    My slogan will be: Percy Show Mercy!
    - Oni
    Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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    dronestar
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    Message 194 of 424 (567276)
    06-30-2010 1:11 PM
    Reply to: Message 93 by New Cat's Eye
    06-29-2010 4:11 PM


    Just curious.
    Crash Frog's Message 91:
    he wasn't interested in the moral philosophy, he was interested in insulting homosexuals.
    CS's Message 92:
    But you don't know that, nor can you.
    Hyroglyphx Message 182:
    I was a homophobe and a typical fundy.
    And I engaged in a shit-ton of controversial topics that pissed a lot of people off.
    I didn't give a shit then and I don't care now.
    In light of Hyro/NJ's latest admissions and glaring intents, do you or anyone else now concede that Crashfrog might have plausible/probable POVs?
    Just curious.

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    crashfrog
    Member (Idle past 1467 days)
    Posts: 19762
    From: Silver Spring, MD
    Joined: 03-20-2003


    Message 195 of 424 (567277)
    06-30-2010 1:13 PM
    Reply to: Message 159 by Modulous
    06-30-2010 7:43 AM


    Would you agree that up to the Berb suspension - the prickliness was mostly from Berb?
    Yes, absolutely - Berb blew up and his behavior absolutely merited suspension.
    We might not completely agree on everything - but I think we can be adults shake hands (or curtly nod) and move on. Thanks for explaining your position in more depth, it was useful.
    Well, I appreciate that. Now, let me get to the two pages of other people's replies!

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