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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
In Matt 16:10-13 Jesus seems to be saying not to look to the opinions/teachings of what men have to say about God, but look to the truth of whom Christ declares Himself to be. This leads to the truth of vs 19 where Jesus reveals that the only true work can we do on earth in His name is work that has already been done by Him in heaven.
Blessings
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Serious question - why then do you enter into this debate? If you cannot accept, even for a nanosecond, any kind of rational alternative are you simply responding for some other kind of self gratification?
This reply was shared with a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I do not expect most unbelievers will accept this truth, but it may cause some sinners to enter into the salvation our Lord gives, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself." (Acts 2:38-39).
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Cool story, however, does your reply change when it is shared with an 'unbeliever'? I know God's word has never failed to save those who repent according to Acts 2:38, those the Lord our God is calling to Himself according to Acts 2:39. Maybe you would like to show the Believers at this forum where/when you think God's prophetic word has failed?
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
There is a big difference between Jesus "coming in His kingdom" (Matt 16:28) which he did after His resurrection (Matt 28:18-20), and Jesus "coming again" (John 14:3) to be Lord over all the earth (Zech 14:9).
Those who refuse our Lord's salvation kingdom now will not be a part of His kingdom when He comes again. It's as simple and as difficult as that!
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Eccles 3:11
He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
As for the Matt 16:28 "some" seeing the Son of Man coming in His kingdom, I seem to have read in Rev 19 where John was given a vision of our Lord's future return at the end of the age.
As for Matt 24, the end of the age will come when the Church on earth finishes the work on earth our Lord has called us to do in verse 14, "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." Will you be a part of this work our Lord Jesus has called us to do?
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
But we will not make any progress if you continue to ignore questions when asked.
I gave you specific answers to your questions concerning Matt 16 & 24. The problem seems to be that you do not receive the answers Jay, I, or other believing Christians give you. Since you seem to be an unbeliever, I cannot give you answers that you can hear until you enter by the door into God's salvation:
John 10:7-9 So Jesus said to them again, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door ; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture." When one asks the right questions, then they are ready for the rigtht answers. Blessings
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
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I know God's word has never failed to save those who repent according to Acts 2:38, How do you know anything at all about what happened to anyone's "spirit" or "soul" or whatever it is that you claim is capable of being "saved" after that person dies? You know nothing of the sort, John. You're Making Stuff Up. 1 John 5:10-13 The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself ; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life ; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. Those that repent according to Acts 2:38, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, and receive the gift of God's Spirit,
The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God (Rom 8:16).
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
Once I have your viewpoint, we can go from there.
Once you tell me that you are a believing Christian according to John 10:7-9, we can go on from there.
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
So let me understand this.
Many times Jay and I have given you and others the truth of what the Bible has to say. I claim there are many parts of the Bible, including many prophesies, that unbelievers will not receive, nor can they understand. You claim the Bible does not have any false prophecies. I make the claim that it does. But you wont engage in any type of debate unless I am a Christian? Wow. There is one truth an unbeliever must do before he can understand many other parts of Scripture:
John 6:28 Therefore they said to Him, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God ?" 29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." Continuing to "debate" unbelievers on parts of Scripture they cannot understand before they believe in Him who God has sent is a waste of our times. If you and others have a genuine desire to believe in Him whom God has sent, there are Believers here that are ready and willing to help you find Him. Until then ..................... Edited by John 10:10, : added sentence
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
The reason you and Jay refused to discuss Matthew 24 is quite obvious.
What is obvious is that you have no desire to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ whom God sent for your salvation. A shame what unbelief does!
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John 10:10 Member (Idle past 3021 days) Posts: 766 From: Mt Juliet / TN / USA Joined: |
If you are so willing to lead me to Christ, then preaching does not work. Evidence does.
Then you are unwilling to be saved by the method that Christ gave to the Church to bring sinners into His salvation,
Rom 10:15 How will they preach unless they are sent ? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS !" 16 However, they did not all heed the good news ; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT ?" 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. I will leave to ICANT the foolishness of debating one who has no interest in the faith that comes from "hearing & receiving the word of Christ," especially the events that will preceed His return to establish His kingdom on earth, and final judgment for the unrighteous. Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.
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