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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 821 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
One of the key differences in creationist thinking and evolutionary thinking has not been mentioned. Creationists like to think of themselves as optimists; they believe in an afterlife, morals and good nature and that these attributes are worth pursuing. Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you.
You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Big_Al35 writes:
I don't. And I'm an evolutionist. In fact, I don't know any evolutionist who does.
Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship.
It's not the picture evolution paints however. Only creationists ever say it does.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
One of the key differences in creationist thinking and evolutionary thinking has not been mentioned. Creationists like to think of themselves as optimists; they believe in an afterlife, morals and good nature and that these attributes are worth pursuing. Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you. You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship. This one post here confirms the whole premise of the OP. It is even a good example of Poe's Law in action. You are becoming a parody of yourself. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you. You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship. One obvious difference between "selling" evolution and selling a commercial product such as soap and automobiles is that in the world of business it is not considered permissible for the competition to tell lies about one's product. If creationist propagandists could ever attain to the standard of morality and decency set by Madison Avenue hucksters, then evolutionists would have no difficulties in appealing to a wider market. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 821 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
If every thought I had about evolutionists confirms that I think that they think like creationists then where will the contributions to this debate come from. Do you only want evolutionists to post? After all a creationist can't think correctly right?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
After all a creationist can't think correctly right? I'll bet that you are capable of thinking just fine, Big Al. (Not "correctly," though. That sounds like something Chairman Mao endorsed.) But you are so terribly misinformed and/or ignorant about what the evolution side of the debate actually says that it muddles things up......
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 821 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Coragyps writes: But you are so terribly misinformed and/or ignorant about what the evolution side of the debate actually says that it muddles things up Ahh...so you do want only evolutionists to post. That's fine with me.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Except of course, no one said that they only wanted evolutionists (whatever that is) to post. You are welcome to post just as anyone else is welcome to post.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Read what others have posted. What you claim "evolutionists" think is wrong.
What does one get when one reads this.
One of the key differences in creationist thinking and evolutionary thinking has not been mentioned. Creationists like to think of themselves as optimists; they believe in an afterlife, morals and good nature and that these attributes are worth pursuing. Evolutionary thinking however is very pessimistic. They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you. You can see that evolution paints a horrific picture even if it is factually correct. (I am not saying that it is mind) It needs to work on its salesmanship. That "evolutionists" are evil and immoral. Creationists are moral and good. Do you realize evolution is not a moral code or lifestyle?Evolution is the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations. It says nothing about kill or be killed. Do you know that Social darwinism is not actually part of the TOE. Totally differnet things. Social Darwinism is a misnomer. Anyone can understand the TOE. Any religion. Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Sihk. Non-religious too. The TOE does not call for an adherence to any moral code. It is a SCIENTFIC THEORY. Nothing more, nothing less. When you post the crap you do saying that "evolutionists" have no morals and we stand for something horrific, I rightfully get mad. If you find offense at that tough shit. I will not stand idly by as you insult me. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 821 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Theodoric writes: When you post the crap you do saying that "evolutionists" have no morals and we stand for something horrific, I rightfully get mad. If you find offense at that tough shit. I will not stand idly by as you insult me. Good grief...I think I touched a nerve!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
If every thought I had about evolutionists confirms that I think that they think like creationists then where will the contributions to this debate come from. Do you only want evolutionists to post? You're free to post rubbish, and we're free to mock you for doing so.
After all a creationist can't think correctly right? Apparently not. But you'll never know unless you try.
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tomato Member (Idle past 4324 days) Posts: 39 Joined: |
Theodoric, thank you for informing me about Poe's Law.
(That is, that fundamentalism is so ridiculous that a parody of fundamentalism can be mistaken for the real thing.) I've never heard of it before. The law can work in reverse, too.The first time I saw the Banana Guy video, I thought surely that it was a parody.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Good grief...I think I touched a nerve! That's the usual consequence of telling unpleasant lies about people, yes. Why the air of surprise? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Ahh...so you do want only evolutionists to post. Where did I say or imply that? Ignorance is quite fixable, Big Al. And you can be pretty entertaining to attempt to educate. Stay around!
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Taq Member Posts: 10038 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Creationists like to think of themselves as optimists; they believe in an afterlife, morals and good nature and that these attributes are worth pursuing. As do many evolutionists, being that 30% of biologists are theists of one sort or another. Also, atheists and agnostics also believe in morals and good nature and think they are worth pursuing.
They believe in survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, anything goes. Success is measured in terms of still being around to see the death of all those around you. Survival of the fittest is simply what happens just like gravity and the transmission of infectious diseases (that good ol' Germ Theory). What nature does in no way informs us of what we ought to do. Success is measured in living a fulfilling life.
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