Problems with being an Atheist (or Evolutionist)

So no evidence, statistics or studies to back up your assertion?What a surprise.

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Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

Oh I get it. You are trying to be clever.So this is how you debate.1) You make an unevidenced assertion.
2) You are called on it. People ask for your evidence.
3) You demand evidence showing that your assertion is not true.Very poor form. Also, the sign of a fool or a liar. Or both.

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Facts don\'t lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

I think your current issue was already brought up in Message 34

You forgot to mention miscarriages of justice: where a jury is deliberately kept ignorant of certain facts - or is given misleading information or is given information that they are not trained to understand and yet still 'find guilty'. Or when despite a lack of evidence, cultural biases on the jury result in them finding a person guilty (colour of skin, sex, attractiveness, personality, sympathy for the victim etc).Kind of important when the prosecutors of creationism and anti-evolution are peddling demonstrable falsehoods to a jury of untrained people with a clear bias against the defendant (evolutionary biology) while skipping over the slight fact that as much as they try and smear the defendant they bring (un)surprisingly little evidence in favour of their hypotheses of creation etc.

This chart shows total state criminal prosecutions for 2005. This article estimates that 150,000 cases are dropped every year because of illegally seized evidence. As you can see, 150,000 is fewer than the total prosecutions for just the state of Wisconsin. Obviously, in terms of total prosecutions, it's a small fraction.Your turn, and I won't hold my breath, dickhead.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Who is trying to smear who? Here is your evidence that it is evolutionists who are trying to smear creationists.

1) My name is ....
2) I am rarely asked for evidence of my name. If anyone does ask I would only provide proof if I felt there was a legitimate reason to give them proof.
3) If you can't prove that my name isn't .... then shouldn't you assume that I am telling the truth until such time as you have evidence that I am lying. Innocent until proven guilty and all that etc.I would suggest that it is your debating technique that is flawed.

Although you're trying to be clever again, number three is actually wrong.Until you can prove that your name is ... or any other claim you make, why should we take your word for it?Until you can prove that you shouldn't send me a million dollars every minute, are you going to send me a million dollars every minute?

This is where legitimate reasons come into play. Clearly your brain seems to have difficulty comprehending legitimate reasons. A condition called autism springs to mind.Anway, until you can prove you shouldn't send me two million dollars every minute, I guess the balance is a cheque in my favour.

Really? You really missed the entire point of my post? Look, there's no easy way to say this but here goes.From what I've seen fom you so far you are either:a) The dumbest person I've ever talked toorb) Pretending to be a complete idiot in order to get a rise out of people, which is perhaps even sadder.So which is it?

Yes, you are right. I did miss the entire point of your post. What was the point of your post again?

In those case where you are, as when you are applying for a passport or stopped by the police, I suggest that you should not try to shift the burden of proof. Neither bureaucrats nor policemen appreciate a smartass. On debate forums, most participants prefer to produce evidence for their assertions (if they have it) then to fall under the odium of making stuff up. If you don't find this a "legitimate reason" to back your assertions with data, that's fine; but you can't object if people then mock both your assertions and your style of debate. The implausibility of a claim is evidence suggesting (though not proving) its falsehood. If you claimed that your parents had christened you Humpty Dumpty Haddock-Floss Wufflepuff T. Bone Steak, then I should be a little skeptical: more so than if you claimed to be called Peter Jenkins or Joe Schultz. Similarly your claim that: ... seems to have aroused a similar skepticism in your audience. I would suggest that you are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

He's trying to explain the concept of "burden of proof" to you.Whether or not this can be said to have a "point" depends on whether or not you are capable of understanding it. Perhaps it is as pointless as trying to explain the same concept to an eggplant. Only time will tell.

I notice you didn't discuss the substance of my criticism.

To summarize:I called bullshit on some nonsense you made up about guilty people going free. Others asked you for evidence for the bullshit you made up. You turned that demand for evidence around to point it at me. I provided evidence, then asked you to do the same. You didn't.Did I miss anything?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate