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bluescat48
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Message 54 of 142 (570673)
07-28-2010 9:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 52 by Pauline
07-28-2010 2:38 AM

You do not realize how sad it is when atheists talk about God not existing simply because science seems to tell us He doesn't (so far). Why would science be given the luxury of answering a spiritual question unless the same people think it is some kind of higher authority?
I have never met an atheist who claims science disproves the existence of god. That would be just as stupid as a theist saying the bible proves god exists.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
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07-28-2010 2:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 57 by crashfrog
07-28-2010 1:59 PM

I have never met an atheist who claims science disproves the existence of god.
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I'm happy to tell you that it's clear to me, and to plenty of others, that science provides ample evidence counter to the existence of most formulations of "God."
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Yes evidence against, but not proof as would be if science was a "higher authority." Since science does not deal in proofs, my statement stands.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
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Message 69 of 142 (570807)
07-28-2010 10:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 65 by Pauline
07-28-2010 10:11 PM

How can you read the Bible and also not agree that according to it, God is the ultimate authority?
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Easily when one sees that these are stories first told by bronze aged farmers who knew nothing of the earth, what's on it or what the universe was. They invented the higher authority from their imagination. That is why they could believe that the entire earth would be covered by 40 days of rain, and that all types of animals could fit on a small wooden boat to repopulate the earth. It shows that the God of Genesis 1, Genesis 2, and Exodus are portrayed differently. When people try to read the Bible through modern eyes they cannot see this only when read through the eyes of the story-tellers can one see the real Bible, that of myths, legends & lessons told by men who needed to know what was what but had no way of finding the answer.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
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07-29-2010 12:13 AM 		Reply to: Message 71 by Pauline
07-28-2010 10:51 PM

Those "bronze age farmers" and other "illiterate writers" knew extraordinary things that you conveniently choose to ignore. Fulfilled prophecies. Extensive history. Science, without physical experimentation (refer to Job). Luke, a doctor is apparently a "bronze age farmer"? Paul, a thinker is a "bronze age farmer"? Moses, a highly educated Egyptian Prince is a "bronze age farmer"? Daniel is too? Isaiah? These bronze age farmers were a little too smart for their writings.
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Show me evidence that any of the above individuals actually existed and if they did exist that any of the stories about them are real.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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