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Bolder-dash
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Message 90 of 109 (570894)
07-29-2010 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by molbiogirl
07-29-2010 10:33 AM


Re: Early tetrapods and tear ducts
Why wold you need a duct, if you already had a gland providing all the secretions necessary?
And are you further trying to say that a mutation to a sebaceous gland created a tear duct? Because that is exactly what crashfrog said, and you are agreeing that he was correct. Make up your mind.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 91 of 109 (570897)
07-29-2010 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by molbiogirl
07-29-2010 10:33 AM


Re: Early tetrapods and tear ducts
It almost seems to me that many of the educated evolutionists can't really be bothered thinking about the finer points of your theory.
There are so many complex systems, each with connecting systems that are virtually useless on their own, and yet you have very little interest to consider how or why they could come together without some kind of guidance. We have all kinds of glands designed to support other systems of the body, and they are useless on their own, and yet you are ok to just brush away this logical difficulties of bridging all of these gaps. Things like saliva glands, or testes. Which came first, an erection or an orgasm?
Well, why bother to wonder, if you can just say natural selection can do it all, the details are much easier to ignore.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 93 of 109 (570902)
07-29-2010 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by New Cat's Eye
07-29-2010 10:59 AM


I am a troll that is hijacking my own thread?
Hey, I want to ask you, how come you believe in a soul while at the same time you believe in an unguided process of life.? Do you think God decided to inject a soul AFTER he saw that his unguided, completely random system luckily resulted in something that resembled him?
And do you believe in this with absolutely no evidence to come to that conclusion?
Or can you just not really be bothered to think about it?

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Bolder-dash
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Message 95 of 109 (570909)
07-29-2010 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by jar
07-29-2010 11:10 AM


Let me explain something to you that might help clear things up a bit for you, because you seem confused to me.
First, I am asking Catholic Scientists why HE holds this belief. You see, you are by definition not capable of answering why HE believes this unless you are in fact him. I think this is known as the "individualist school of thought ownership"-or in some circles also known as the "who the fuck was asking you what he thinks" brand of intellectualism. Its a post-modernist thought I concede.
Secondly, there may be evidence of common ancestry, but there is virtually no evidence of the mechanism for that.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 99 of 109 (570915)
07-29-2010 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by New Cat's Eye
07-29-2010 11:28 AM


I think this sort of depends on what you mean by evolution-evolution as a general concept, or evolution as a Darwinian/natural selection kind of thing (for that there really isn't any evidence at all as it turns out-just lots of conjecture).
I don't doubt at all your subjective evidence for a soul. I think that is what one would expect one's experience of a soul to be. Most people already have accepted that they are not going to be sent a hand delivered letter of authenticity from above.
I just have a hard time philosophically coupling a notion of unguided, unintelligent evolutionary drive with the concepts of a unique relationship between a spirit and a human. But as you have stated, you don't necessarily believe in a classical Darwinian evolutionary theory, so I can understand more easily how you can reach your beliefs.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 107 of 109 (571092)
07-30-2010 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by subbie
07-29-2010 6:45 PM


I am waiting for melindoor to respond. At least he appears to think about his replies.

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