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Author Topic:   Why creationist definitions of evolution are wrong, terribly wrong.
Tanypteryx
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Message 141 of 205 (547248)
02-17-2010 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by RAZD
02-17-2010 1:51 PM


Re: What about another definition?
H i RAZD,
RAZD writes:
d. "macroevolution" is focused on the divergence of daughter species as they evolve independently from their common ancestor population, and on the formation of nested hierarchies as the daughter populations become parent populations to new daughter species.
I think creationists see "macroevolution" as some separate (above the species level) process rather than microevolution continuing on in daughter populations.
It is interesting that whenever I discuss evolution with my entomologist colleagues, the term "macroevolution" is never used with regards to speciation. It only comes up when we talk about creationist's lack in understanding of evolutionary biology.
Another wrong definition of evolution that I see creationists use over and over is:
Arphy in message 91 writes:
that over many generations bacteria turned into humans
Bacteria have never turned into humans! There are literally millions of transitional species between the earliest single celled organisms and all modern species. "Over many generations" does not even begin to to describe the reality.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 197 of 205 (571323)
07-31-2010 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by barbara
07-27-2010 4:31 PM


Re: What about another definition?
barbara writes:
quote mined from Tanypteryx message 141 writes:
"bacteria never turned into Humans"
Are you absolutely sure about that statement since most our DNA is bacteria in origin.
I see you are already skilled at quote-mining and ignoring context.
So according to you, we should expect to see human babies popping up in bacterial culture incubaters in labs around the world.
I had better keep an eye on my kitchen sink drain.
barbara in message 191 writes:
The genome project were not talking about cells, they were talking about our DNA and they said 10% was Human and 90% microbial DNA.
If this is true then we are really bacteria, but we know that you are just making this shit up. The evidence that this is just your imagination or outright lies is your failure to provide a single reference to anything you write.
Enjoy,

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Tanypteryx
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Message 199 of 205 (571369)
07-31-2010 2:07 PM
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07-31-2010 12:21 PM


Re: What about another definition?
Coragyps writes:
Speculation: is Barbara wildly misremembering or misrepresenting a factoid (a true one) that roughly 90% of the cells in human bodies are bacteria - mostly in our gut - and 10% are eukaryote cells?
Maybe you are right, butI guess I will remain skeptical, I think she is just making stuff up.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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