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pelican
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Message 189 of 229 (571064)
07-29-2010 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by jar
07-29-2010 11:02 AM


Re: Sheep and Goats
he point is that many of the folk out there that spend their lives professing love of God and Jesus, doing for Jesus, the Christian followers the ones that would do anything FOR Jesus, miss the point.
It is an explanation of the Great Commandment Love God and love others as you love yourself.
The way you love God is not doing for God, it is doing for others.
I would agree with this also which means you don't even have to believe in god to receive god's love. It's all about the person we are on the inside regardless of culture or religion. It's more like being the word of god rather than doing.
When we get sorted, all the secular folk that paid high taxes for a welfare system to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked, educate the children will surely be among the Sheep.
Are you in this category? Personally giving money in any way doesn't cut it. Perhaps the intention and motive for giving money is more important. Would the high tax payers pay it if they didn't have to? How many fiddle their taxes? As with any group of human beings, there will be a mix.
If we look at the worlds population, there are far more folk out there of all religions that will fall under the criteria of Sheep than there will be Christians. Sure there will be Christians in both camps, but the common idea that the split is between believers and non-believers is wrong.
Yes I would totally agree with this 'idea' of the split being wrong.
When we look at the makeup of Sheep and Goats, the division will not be as so many Christians seem to think.
I know the J.W's believe 144000 of them will go to heaven. When the need is great enough people will believe anything.
Thanks for your responses. Enjoyed them very much.

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pelican
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Message 190 of 229 (571228)
07-30-2010 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by purpledawn
07-29-2010 7:20 PM


Re: The Parable of the Talents
No. Everything that Jesus supposedly said was not a parable.
Yes I agree that Jesus was not always speaking in parables. However, his sentiments and beliefs don't change throughout his life.
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How do you know? Aren't you just using parts of the parables and discarding what doesn't fit into your expanation?
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I read and try to understand what the original audience understood.
I think the understanding has to come through the author/narrator. I try to understand what Jesus meant. I don't think their minds could have been as complicated as ours and wouldn't have the ability to 'overthink' it as we do.
Thanks for your input. I expected a lively discussion and was not dissappointed. Great.

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pelican
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Message 192 of 229 (571481)
07-31-2010 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by purpledawn
07-31-2010 8:03 AM


Re: The Parable of the Talents
Ok the consensus of opinion seems to be that Jesus was teaching "it is wrong to not use our god given talents."
Is this how Christians see it and do they apply it in their lives?

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pelican
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Message 194 of 229 (571489)
07-31-2010 10:11 PM
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07-31-2010 9:53 PM


Re: The Parable of the Talents
It's sure not as popular as "Let go and let god" or "Not perfected, only saved" or all the other cop outs.
Copping out of what?

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pelican
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Message 196 of 229 (571520)
08-01-2010 1:26 AM
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07-31-2010 10:14 PM


Re: The Parable of the Talents
You have an odd perceptions of christians in general. What's up?

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pelican
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Message 199 of 229 (571670)
08-01-2010 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by purpledawn
08-01-2010 7:00 AM


Re: The Parable of the Talents
Thanks purpledawn, I think our personal experiences greatly influence our understanding of Jesus' teaching. It seems the parables are such that we can manipulate them to suit and to justify our behaviour. Regards

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