Creationists think Evolutionists think like Creationists.

Ok Jar, well all intriguing points for sure. You are saying that Christians have always supported the ToE as the best explanation for the diversity we see all about us?Well, you could be right there. I know from my experience, many Christians are more open and honest than the evolutionists I know, so you could be completely correct. Especially the one's who are simply seeking to find out the truth-which of course isn't easy in this day and age.

Again you post another misrepresentation. Many people that support the fact that evolution happened and that the Theory of Evolution is not only the best explanation available, it is the ONLY explanation available.Many Christians are evolutionists.So why do you say "many Christians are more open and honest than the evolutionists I know"?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Ok, got it. So your opinion is that creationists are just projecting.Well its a unique perspective anyway.But it still doesn't really explain the way that evolutionist attempt to squelch academic freedoms, and try to get people with opposing viewpoints fired, and hijack Wikipedia, and try to isolate students from hearing the truths, in a fashion that would make Stalin proud.But, ok, its your opinion. Even if you are part of that establishment.

Because that's my opinion.Oh, and because of the massive effort they have utilized to try to monopolize the scientific world.

Why do you continue to post falsehoods?Please show where anyone has tried to isolate students from hearing the truth except for the Christian Cult of Ignorance.Who is it that builds schools where the Theory of Evolution is not taught honestly? The Christian Cult of Ignorance and their avoidance schools and home schooling; that's who.If you actually had anything true then who stops you from posting it?When do you plan on posting the links to support your claim of Roger Ebert's near death experience?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

You are a funny guy!I do have to give you credit though, you have been pretty resourceful and impressive in the way you have distorted so much information- but this is one area where you seem very unskilled at actually convincing anyone.Everything you have written so far at EvC are unsubstantiated assertions and distortions of the truth.Very entertaining!

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonYou can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

Well, I am one that started off as a young earth creationist. My education was in no way sequestered in the secular world. Yet I came to accept the theory of evolution as basically correct and the best description of the history of life on earth. You can hardly say I was "brainwashed" into believing in evolution.And, in fact, I know of several other people who were initially creationists, well versed in their religious tenets, who ended up accepting the theory of evolution. On the other hand, I know no one (and only heard vague rumors of a single person) who started off as evolutionists and became young earth creationists as a result of examining the data closely. All the people that I know of who became creationists did so after having a religious experience that either resulted in their converting to a literalist faith or deepening their faith in the literalist tradition.To put a finer point on it, people who accept evolution, especially scientists, come from many, many different religious traditions and even retain their religious beliefs, including evangelical Christians. The come from many different social and cultural backgrounds as well. On the other hand, creationists tend to be members of religious sects that insist on a literal reading of their religious texts. To me, that suggests that the evidence itself is pretty persuasive and that the brainwashing, if there is any, is on the other side.Finally, I want to point out that the scientific "establishment" is actually a pretty anarchic community. Each university is largely responsible for its own hiring of faculty, each journal sets its own standards for publication, each agency decides which researchers are eligible for its funding. It seems to me to be pretty unlikely that such a large, diverse community without a "central committee" to decide its dogma could for so long establish and maintain a single coherent picture of the history of the universe, the earth, and life on earth if the data were inconclusive or, worse, really indicative of an intelligent creator. It seems to me that different fields and different countries would have established wildly different versions of this history with a significant number accepting a version of the creationists' history.

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To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

But you once again post falsehoods.No one keeps Creationists or Intelligent Designers from doing science, they simply do NOT do science.I tried to help you in this post. I tried to teach you what is needed if ID or Creationism is to ever be taken seriously or as science. Did you read that post?No one is trying to keep the Intelligent Designers or Creationists out of science, the question you should ask is "What is it about the way Creationists think that makes them incapable of doing science related to either Intelligent Design or Creationism?"

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

So you saw Expelled. Whoopee. You might want to actually read the background on that movie. You will see that it is nothing but lies and misrepresentations. There is a thread or two on it.Oh yeah that's right. You refuse to consider anything that threatens your world view.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

On the contrary, I like learning new things. Thanks. I have been trying to learn new things but all the evolutionists brownshirts keep hiding all the books at the books stores.What is Expelled? Never heard of it.Anyway, do you have any theory about why evolutionists intentionally alter Wikipedia to suit their cultism?

Once again, unless you can post some support for that assertion I gotta point out that once again you are simply posting falsehoods. See above. Another falsehood?Help us understand how you think. What makes you think either of the above are true?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

My theory is that the "evolutionists" are trying to be pretty strict at keeping inaccuracies, fabrications, and irrelevancies out of the articles in question.

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To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

Uh, Bolder-dash, that creationists are projecting is the topic of this thread. That's what "Creationists think Evolutionists think like Creationists" means. You're just now getting this? There you go projecting again.--Percy

Well, at least we agree on one aspect. The evolutionists definitely control Wikipedia.

Well, we agree except that I would clarify "evolutionist" to mean "rational people who understand the topic in question."

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To count as an atheist, one needn't claim to have proof that there are no gods. One only needs to believe that the evidence on the god question is in a similar state to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy