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Author Topic:   When does design become intelligent? (AS OF 8/2/10 - CLOSING COMMENTS ONLY)
ringo
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Message 656 of 702 (571846)
08-02-2010 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 653 by ICANT
08-02-2010 5:35 PM


Re: Antenna gains
ICANT writes:
Intelligence is the ability and capability of an individual to acquire knowledge which is information.
That's why I mentioned earlier that it seems demeaning to ascribe intelligence to a god. Your god can "acquire knowledge"? Meaning he isn't omniscient? Omniscience and intelligence would seem to be mutually exclusive.

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ringo
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Message 660 of 702 (571850)
08-02-2010 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 658 by ICANT
08-02-2010 5:51 PM


Re: Information
ICANT writes:
Where Have I ever claimed to understand anything that was not written in the Bible?
You claimed that I disagreed with your sources. How could you make that claim if you didn't understand your sources?
ICANT writes:
They also state that information is transfered from inside the nucelus of the cell by mRNA to the ribsome outside the nucelus to create the protein needed.
They also state that the information contained in the DNA contains the complete blueprint for the living being it resides in.
And I explained to you what that means. I explained that it's all a mechanical process and that's what they said. You are the only one who's claiming that DNA is somehow "special" and doesn't work like other molecules, that it requires intelligence.
ICANT writes:
Now if you want to refute what they say don't expect me to argue the point with you. Which is what you are trying to get me to do.
There you go again, being dishonest. I have told you more than once that I don't want to refute what your sources say. I agree with them 100% because - here it is again - I learned everything I know from them. In one breath you deny claiming to understand them and in the next breath you claim that I disagree with them. You can't have it both ways.
I am definitely not trying to get you to argue any point. I know very well, and anybody reading this thread knows very well that you have no point to argue. All you have is bald assertions and insults.
I am trying to help you understand at least one or two basic points. I want you to think about what the "information" on DNA looks like.

Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

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