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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 9.2
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Terrorist Muslims are terrorists (rightly or wrongly) because of their muslim beliefs. Are they bollocks. If that was true there'd be a billion little suicide bombers kicking around. They're no more terrorists because they're Muslims than the IRA were terrorists because they're Catholic.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
It's an insulting gesture to many Americans, something akin to: 1. Building a statue of Hitler at Auschwitz2. Building a GWB monument in Bagdad 3. Building a Benihana at Pearl Harbor There are already Mosques within blocks of ground zero. The comparisons are nothing like a mosque. That Godwin needs no explanation. Neither should the War criminal. Last I heard GWB had no been raised to godhood yet.There is a Japanese restaurant that practically overlooks Pearl Harbor. Though not your material, you used it. The material is not relevant and as we can see not even accurate. ABEShould we ban christian churches from around the Murrah building too? Edited by Theodoric, : Forgot point Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Terrorist Christians are terrorists (rightly or wrongly) because of their Christian beliefs.
Neither has anything to do with the fact that in the US, Freedom of Religion is assured under our Constitution. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2325 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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slevesque writes:
Really? Pedophile priests aren't pedophile because of their christian beliefs. Marc 10:13-16:
quote: Seems like Jesus is saying that "touching" little children is the Kingdom of god, and that little children should be "touched". No, I don't think this is where the priests got their inspiration, but really, anything can be made of holy texts, so if you claim that terrorist Muslims are terrorists because of their book, I'll claim that paedophile Christians are paedophiles because of theirs.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Though not your material, you used it. The material is not relevant and as we can see not even accurate. I used it to express the sentiments of millions of Americans, not explain my own stance. I stated that there is no legal basis to bar it, however, from the perspective of those building it, they might want to consider that it almost certainly will be vandalized and/or suffer arson. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Seems like Jesus is saying that "touching" little children is the Kingdom of god, and that little children should be "touched". That's a rather dubious twisting of scripture, don't you think? Since when is touching someone necessarily sexually fondling them? Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
NJ writes: I stated that there is no legal basis to bar it, however, from the perspective of those building it, they might want to consider that it almost certainly will be vandalized and/or suffer arson. If that happens then hopefully the people that commit such crimes will be caught and tried as terrorists. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
That's a rather dubious twisting of scripture, don't you think? Since when is touching someone necessarily sexually fondling them? I think you will find that was rather his point. I'd note as well that it's no more dubious that many popular Christian interpretations of the Bible.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2325 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes:
Yes, but that was the point. Like I said after that:
That's a rather dubious twisting of scripture, don't you think? Huntard writes:
No, I don't think this is where the priests got their inspiration, but really, anything can be made of holy texts, so if you claim that terrorist Muslims are terrorists because of their book, I'll claim that paedophile Christians are paedophiles because of theirs.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I wonder how far away from Ground Zero a new mosque would have to be to be "acceptable". Brooklyn? New Jersey?
My guess is that any new mosque in Colorado or Florida will have at least one idiot making the same complaint that it's an insult to 9-11 victims. Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
My guess is that any new mosque in Colorado or Florida will have at least one idiot making the same complaint that it's an insult to 9-11 victims
Something like that:
"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government." -- Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association As to the the topic: Obama supports freedom of religion!! That proves he's a stealth muslim terrorist!! /sarcasm It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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slevesque Member (Idle past 4671 days) Posts: 1456 Joined: |
Predictable answer, but it is a bit irrelevant.
Ask a muslim terrorist about his justification and he will say his religion ask a catholic priest and he will not quote scripture (unless you can show me one that does). Maybe the bible and christianity could be used to justify pedophilia by a very twisted mind, but as far as I know it isn't. So as I said, in my first post, the source for those priests actions isn't their religion. The same cannot be said for muslim terrorists.
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slevesque Member (Idle past 4671 days) Posts: 1456 Joined: |
If terrorist christians had stunned an entire nation by killing thousands of people all at once, (in other words, an analog situation), then Mr. Jack's analogy would have been useable.
But this wasn't his analogy, it was about pedophile priests.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Of course terrorist Christians have killed millions, likely billions. But the point is, as I said, that still has NOTHING to do with the topic.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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slevesque Member (Idle past 4671 days) Posts: 1456 Joined: |
All I'm saying is that his argument by analogy was fallacious, because pedophile priests and muslim terrorists are not analog.
AbE and lol at 'likely billions' Edited by slevesque, : No reason given.
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