Message 31 of 44 (195333) 03-29-2005 10:05 PM

Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw 03-29-2005 12:23 AM

I AM THAT I AM

(Jeh�-Jehav�h)

that is my name which remains eternally and from generation to generation

Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM has sent me unto you.

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Message 33 of 44 (195830) 03-31-2005 5:16 PM

Yet in the Qur'an there is but one prophecy and this is in Sura 30:1-4. In this gem of a Sura we are told that the Roman empire has been defeated but that, "in a land close by" the Romans will be victorious again "in a few years".

Think about this for a minute! The "prophet" Muhammad gave no signs, performed not one miracle and made but one, vague, prophecy that sometime in the next few years the 7th century Romans who were still quite strong militarily would have a victory. Earth shaking stuff, huh?

Muhammad himself admitted he could do no miracles. In fact nowhere in the Qur'an does Muhammad perform even one miracle. So for Muslims to claim he performed miracles when the Qur'an itself states he did not is simply lies.

Sura 17:90-93 of the Qur'an tells about how, when Muhammad was challenged to perform a miracle and prove he was from the true god, he could not perform any and here he actually says himself:
"Am I anything except a human messenger?".

In Sura 13:7, we find that Muhammad did not perform any miracles. The people are saying that even one sign would be enough to convince them, just one miracle performed by Muhammad - and yet he still does none....

The New Testament repeatedly declares that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (Yahweh), that He was crucified and resurrected to both pay for our sins and to make possible our salvation, but the Qur'an expressly denies all these things. The Qur'an says Jesus was not crucified. (Surah 4:157-158). The Qur'an teaches that those who believe in the Blessed Trinity are dung. �If you accept Islam, you forever reject Jesus. It is a decision that will effect where you spend eternity.

So, because a single lying, murderer, rapist, plunderer and thief (Muhammad) who did everything for his personal gain --walked on this earth - billions of souls (Muslims) are forever lost to you Yahweh. Why was it allowed?

Read: http://bibleprobe.com/muhammed.htm

Message 34 of 44 (195846) 03-31-2005 6:21 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by BibleProbe 03-31-2005 5:16 PM

Answer: Cause he's right and the New Testament is wrong.

though you're probably just a troll who won't read this.

This message has been edited by DrJones*, 03-31-2005 06:23 PM

Message 35 of 44 (195848) 03-31-2005 6:31 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by BibleProbe 03-31-2005 5:16 PM

quote:

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In the bible there are literally hundreds of prophecies, all made in Gods name.

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If the definition of prophecy is "general, ambiguously written phrases that can have several interpretations, and may or may not have been written after the event allegedly phrophesied", then this quote is true.

If, on the other hand, the definition of prophecy is, "a clear, direct statement that predicts a definite future event that does, in fact, occur," then BibleProbe's statement is false.

But I don't think that the topic of this thread allows debate on this subject; BibleProbe is inivited to start a thread explaining in detail what he conisiders to be a good, clear prophecy in the Bible.

Message 36 of 44 (195991) 04-01-2005 8:14 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud 03-24-2005 2:56 AM

Lord in heaven, thank you for all that you have done for me, and giving me life.

What do you want me to do?

Message 37 of 44 (196004) 04-01-2005 9:43 AM

Reply to: Message 32 by gnojek 03-30-2005 1:12 PM

Sorry, but I don't grasp the relevance of your question "who needs Jehovah?"

Did you have something more specific you were trying to convey in response to my original answer to the OP?

Message 38 of 44 (573755) 08-12-2010 4:28 PM

Reply to: Message 4 by jessie 03-25-2005 6:29 PM

the beginning includes learning to be a fisher kiddo that will fish a person

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Fish were made to go after the food and then decide whether or not their mouths will be open when they reach it.
There is no point of worry for a fish except that they don't like others trying to open their mouth.
because they were made to do it all by themselves.
For a fish, 'to open the mouth' is not different from swallowing.

Asking to accept is making a try,
And asking someone to accept the food of the word is trying to open the mouth of a fish;
quoting the word with the purpose of asking to accept is the same as trying to make him swallow,
and is not different from shroving the food down one's throat.

To fish people is proceeding through parables,
that is the initial mode; the fish go after the food,
not the inverse operation.
And when the instruction is given
it is given to him--her that has ears to hear.

However the mercenary mode is doing the averse;
to make a try to open the mouth of a fish;
to use the bible with the purpose of asking to accept,
to judge the people with the purpose of persuading
by judging that this or another person is needing to lift up the hand and come to the altar then speak (open the mouth) and accept.

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Message 39 of 44 (574524) 08-16-2010 10:53 AM

And then I would presumably go to hell / be annihilated / tortured forever / consumed / etc. by the evil deity.

Message 40 of 44 (574765) 08-17-2010 5:46 PM

What in the Bible is actually true?

And why do you allow evil to flourish if you are a kind and loving god?

Message 44 of 44 (574808) 08-17-2010 10:45 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud 03-24-2005 2:56 AM

ABE - However if Yahweh resembled Halle Selassie or Pantagruel, I may make it my second question.

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This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It�s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen