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Huntard
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Message 6 of 83 (575272)
08-19-2010 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by archaeologist
08-18-2010 4:35 AM


Hello archaeologist,
in your conclusion, you write:
archaeologist writes:
Simply put, the act of creation is far more scientific, even under the secular scientific ‘rules’, and is more valid for the explanation of origins than the theory of evolution.
I will not make any comment at this time regarding the validity of "creation" as an explanation for origins, but in one thing you are absolutely correct. The Theory of Evolution doesn't explain origins in the slightest. The thing is, however, that evolution was never meant to explain the origins of life. It describes the development of life after it arises.

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Huntard
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Message 17 of 83 (575435)
08-20-2010 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by archaeologist
08-20-2010 1:29 AM


archaeologist writes:
Taq writes:
Before we dig too deep into the evo v. creo debate perhaps we should first agree on how science is done, don't you agree?
no. because how secular science does it methods, omits data and pursues a false conclusion. just because something does not meat the secular science methodology doesn't mean it did not take place.
Well, in your intro in Message 1, you write:
archaeologist writes:
This work will not be used to explore those options rather it will use the current secular principles and rules to show that act of creation can and should be considered science.
So, what is it, will you use the secular science, or won't you? You can't have it both ways. Either you're using it now, and we have to agree on what it says, or you're not using it, making your entire article pointless.

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Huntard
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Posts: 2870
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Message 24 of 83 (575475)
08-20-2010 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by archaeologist
08-20-2010 4:05 AM


Re: "Observations"
archaeologist writes:
the only people doing the insulting is your side, i have yet to insult even though you may think i have insulted you, i have not and i should know, i am the one typing the words..
No, you see, you have. Remember when you got so pissed off at me that you told me you weren't going to respond to me anymore. I merely mimicked your posting style.
As for insults, in this thread alone we get:
In Message 8:
the predictions made are constructed in a manner to bring the desired conclusion, and cannot be considered honest.
Insulting in that it calls your opponents dishonest.
Later in that same message:
such claims are all speculation, conjecture, assumption, etc., based upon subjective determination of long dead incomplete (for the most part and for a majority a single bone) skeleton.
Same thing again, you are calling us dishonest.
Still the same message:
this then is ultimate evidence that the theory of evolutionis false and the process does not exist except in the imaginations of those reject the Biblical account and want alternatives to it.
Here you are calling us delusional.
In Message 14:
no. because how secular science does it methods, omits data and pursues a false conclusion.
Calling us dishonest once more.
Same message:
we do not need to 'create' a hyptohesis for origins because we already know what it is and those who reject that explanation scramble to replace it with some fictional account they cannot prove and leave people without any answers.
Accusing us of lying.
In Message 15:
you want to put God's creative act under your microscope and then declare it valid or not WHILE knowing that you cannot replicate anything to do with the theory of evolution, nor show the original conditions for its beginnings (or replicate that) and initial interaction with life.
Calling us liars again.
Later on:
evolutionists and atheists are all the same, thy will demand one thing from their opponents while distorting their own work to make sure it fits their ideas.
Calling us dishones once more.
And finally in Message 16:
i can point to Ann Gibbons' book, The First Human and let you read her records of how anthropologists build huge theories out of a tiny toe bone, and then claim they discovered a new species. it is ridiculous.
More accusations of lying and dishonesty.
sorry but i do not play your game.
Blatantly admitting you will never accept anything we tell you, basically calling yourself superior to us.
yet you cannot produce 5 credible and legitimate ones.
Accusing us of lying again.
i do not put my trust in them for my information.
You do not trust us.
ha ha ha ha.
Laughing at us.
And that's it for now.
So, you see, Archie, you have in fact been very insulting. You didn't like it when I did it to you, so one wonders why you do it to others.
Please stop it.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2322 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 76 of 83 (578411)
09-01-2010 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by archaeologist
09-01-2010 5:29 PM


archaeologist writes:
didn't do that as i believe i made the point that we can test creation by going to thenurseries fo the world and seeing it in action.
Wait... God is creating things ex-nihilo in nurseries?

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