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Author Topic:   The 6 stages of an EvC argument
Huntard
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Message 4 of 29 (575571)
08-20-2010 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Straggler
08-20-2010 1:44 PM


Re: And now for something completely different...
Straggler writes:
Lot's of newbies say this and it always intrigues me. I remember when I first came across this site. I started reading, was impressed with the level of debate as compared to anywhere else I had seen and sort of vaguely thought I should absorb some of the ideas before embarking myself. Then somebody said something in the thread I was reading that I felt compelled to respond to and that was that. My lurking period must have lasted all of 3 minutes.
What have you lurked? Who are your fave posters as a lurker? Just curious.
Well, I lurked here for quite some time (from before "the purge" even. My favourite posters from those months were Jar and Rahvin, I think, and RAZD as well.
Anyway, to add something to the topic, the 6 stages I see mostly happening are:
  1. Topic gets proposed
  2. Topic gets promoted, people come in telling the creationist is wrong, and point out his mistakes
  3. Creationist fails to respond to the posts that were made to him, simply rambling on. Sometimes accusing the other party of not being honest/lying.
  4. More refutations come in, people ask why he is reacting the way he is.
  5. Creationists either losses it completely and gets banned, or he leaves, never to be heard of again.
In rare occasions, the creationist actually is a decent enough person to get a nice conversation going. and in that case, your list is more accurate than mine.
As to this:
Nij writes:
edit: is there coding to make a bulleted list? It would tidy up the '6 stages are' part much.
Use the "peek" button on the bottom right of this post to see how I did that list, alternatively you can read this page where all the dBCodes are listed. Alos, when you reply, this page is accesible to the left of the relpy box, click the "help" links next to "HTML On" and "dBCodes On".

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2296 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 6 of 29 (575584)
08-20-2010 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Straggler
08-20-2010 2:19 PM


Re: And now for something completely different...
Straggler writes:
Your list is pretty accurate when it comes to some newly invigorated creationist looking on the web for a place to vent his polemic.
They, as you rightly point out, tend to leave here rather hastily once they ascertain the level of questioning and argument to which they are going to be exposed.
Yes, perhaps I should've added "recently" as a qualifier as well. Ah well.
There are exceptions. Slev, Buz, ICANT and Dr Sing obviously spring to mind. Stalwarts who take a lot of shit but who keep coming back for more. As wrong as I think they are this place wouldn't be the same without them.
Quite right, at least they are "decent persons" who don;t go screaming on the top of their lungs about how dishonest and lying we all are. Which is what I meant with the second part of my post. As long as you are a decent person, being wrong does not have to stand in the way of a nice discussion.

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