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Hi all,For my first post, I hope to have come up with an intriguing question: which animals would populate the earth today if the flood really happened?Let's assume that the ark was indeed large enough to contain all land animals (which, according to most YECs includes the dinosaurs, if I'm not mistaken) and that there was enough food. So, after the flood the ark sits 4000m high on Mt Ararat and Noah opens the doors to release them all. What happens? Who gets killed first and who survives? Who freezes to death and who makes it off the mountain?And did Noah release the chickens and cows and pigs and sheep as well, or did he keep them in the ark so that he didn't have to catch them later if he wanted eggs & bacon for breakfast?And what would we find on Mt Ararat, except for the ark, of course? Would there be evidence of a massive slaughtering of slow, fat animals by tigers, velociraptors, and so on?

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I'd point out that there are known island populations thought to have been established by a single pregnant female. That's even more extreme than a population of 4 individuals.

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Depending on whether each pair was put in a cage together or not, there might have been some pregnant animals in the ark when it stranded on Mt Ararat.

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Even assuming a miraculous regeneration of plant life, the predators would probably eat most of the herbivores and then starve.

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Plus that most other animals would die from the climate as well; I don't see a polar bear thriving in the mountains of the Near East, or a pinguin for that matter.

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So the real answer would be "mainly those that didn't need to be on the ark"

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So, basically, there would be only fish left. Luckily, science has shown that we all evolved from water animals anyway, so that means that the ark is still not disproven by science

Hi Buzsaw,Thanks for the welcome!You may have just missed the main point in my OP. I already said that all animals would survive the Ark, so how that happened was not an issue here. My question was, what happened after the flood when Noah opened the doors and released the animals into the wild? Would the predators start killing the other animals? Which ones would get killed first? Would there be any animal that would survive the harsh environment of Mt Ararat (and its foothills are just as unforgiving), especially if it's something like a polar bear? Would anything besides a few ants and other sturdy insects survive?Obviously, you are now going to say; look around, all the animals survived because they are here now. In that case, please provide a scientific (i.e. at least testable) scenario that led (among other incredible things) to pinguins getting from the Ark to Antarctica; I don't see a pinguin waddling all the way from Mt Ararat across the heat of the Mesopotamian plain to the Persian Gulf to swim thousands of miles to Antarctica, but maybe I am mistaken?

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I think one premise of this thread about how the animals would have repopulated the Earth is that only natural processes be invoked.

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That was the idea, yes. Of course, Buzsaw has so far not even addressed the main point of this thread. He writes about where the ark landed etc., but what I would like to hear from him is - among other things - how and why penguins exist in the first place, because if I release two pinguins on Mt Ararat today, I am pretty sure they will die a horrible death, as will probably at least 90% of all other animals that are supposed to have been on the ark (given that their current ecological niches are not those of Mt Ararat or its immediate surroundings). If he needs supernatural processes to explain that, be my guest, but of course he should still present the evidence to back it up.Edited by Dirk, : clarify

Hi Maryanne,Welcome to EvC! So the flood was intended to destroy wicked humans, but it was not global. That must mean that there were no wicked humans in those part of the world that were not flooded, otherwise God would have flooded those parts too. That's interesting, given that people in all those parts of the world believed in all kinds of gods (precursors of Zeus, Thor, Vishnu), but not God. Apparently, that didn't really bother him, then. So God prevented the animals from eating each other when they came from the ark. At what point in time then did they start eating each other? And why did God suddenly decide that that was a good idea?

Hi Robert, Makes sense if the ark were real (which was the assumption in this thread). But... Uh, no? If cows are clean, and tigers are unclean, the cows still get eaten and would definitely not dominate. And since it is likely that either the cows got eaten or starved to death on Mt Ararat, something else must have happened.On the other hand, if the clean dominate over the unclean, that would mean that some sort of bacteria is probably the cleanest of all, since their kind is probably among the most successful and most dominant creatures ever and are very likely to survive god's own supposed favourites (namely, us) by many millions of years. It would, if it also showed evidence for the flood. But it doesn't.