Obama supports Ground Zero mosque. Religious freedom or is he being too PC?

If I recall correctly (television news, and no, it isn't near as biased as stuff you get in the US, before people begin to criticise) Obama never stated support for the mosque.He explicitly stated that he supported religious freedoms, amongst all of the social and personal freedoms espoused by the Constitution, or something along those lines. He did not make any specific mention of any potential building of any potential centre and as a WH aide added afterwards, it is not El Presidente's place to comment on every local construction project. The Obama-god (lol, JBIC) neither makes nor holds any public position on the development of one particular community centre.As several here have argued, it is neither a Muslim "victory dance" (many followers of Islam were killed that day too) nor is it an offence to sacred ground (it was a mulitcultural business centre, not a church) nor is it illegal (in fact, the opposite, entirely above board and within bounds) nor is it offensive (to anyone but the fundy right, but they're offended by anything that uses reason or isn't white, straight, Christian, or male; better to ignore them, I think).Also IIRC, there's already an existing mosque closer to Ground Zero than the planned centre will be, definitely around there somewhere. Any help would be good on this one (already arguing this with another of the previously-mentioned fundy rightists on this point).Edited by Nij, : To finish a sentence.

It's not closer but rather about 4 blocks away.see Message 13.

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Duly noted. However, why not protest that one? 4 blocks is just as bad as 2.Or as one of the creos was questioned about in another thread, "where is this arbitrary limit and how do you determine it?"Edited by Nij, : Stupid adverbs.

Protesters rally against, for planned Islamic center in New York - CNN.comThis is total bullshit!

A friend of mine made a good point. While yes, there is freedom of religion and the mosque can't be stopped from being built, people are sensitive about it.Now, asking Muslims to acknowledge this is the same as when they ask us (normal people) to be sensitive to their beliefs, such as, not showing an image of their prophet on TV.So I think they should build the mosque, but it would be awesome if across the street from the mosque someone built a giant poster of their prophet.Question is, would they accept someone doing that?- Oni

Those two things just don't seem to be comparable. The purpose of the mosque (and it is only incidentally a mosque) is for their use and worship. The sign seems to be solely to aggravate them.

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My point is that freedom is freedom, religious and speech.If they want religious freedom, then they can't get mad when someone is exercising freedom of speech. No one cares that they're offended, just as they don't care if the mosque offends others. Freedom is freedom.- Oni

Certainly freedom is freedom, and in the US someone would have the right to put up such a poster. I'd still consider that person to be an asshole though.

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But that's the question: do you think someone would be allowed to do it? They've censored every image on American TV, a highly doubt a poster would be allowed. Someone would point to the fact that it's offensive, but, when someone considers the mosque offensive the Constitution is thrown at them.- Oni

Of course they should be allowed to put up such a poster.

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Should be allowed is one thing, but would they be allowed is my question. We've seen it censored on TV, what would suggest they'd allow a poster of it especially in front of a mosque.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

You should be free to call your grandmother a fat, ugly old whore, but you should choose not to do it.

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Why doesn't that apply equally for the people wanting to build the mosque? Shouldn't they choose not to do it?- Oni

The Constitution.If they can find a company willing to rent space to assholes than where is the problem?Of course, companies don't have to rent space to assholes.

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It's about personal motivation. If their motivation is to build bridges between Muslims and the rest of society, they should choose to build the mosque. If their motive is to be offensive, they should choose not to. Similarly, if your poster is motivated by a desire to improve relations with Muslims, you should put it up. If your motivation is to thumb your nose at Muslims, you should choose not to.

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