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Is religion good for us?

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Coyote
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08-24-2010 11:16 AM

History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.
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Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973
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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
  
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08-24-2010 3:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by Stile
08-24-2010 3:03 PM

Re: Part of the Problem
But let's be clear that "getting rid of religion" is not a solution to the problem.
How about getting rid of religious fundamentalism, in all forms?
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That seems to be where the real problem lies.
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Art Hoppe writes:
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Save us, dear Lord, from those who would save us.
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Art Hoppe, On the Death of Robert Kennedy
San Francisco Chronicle, 1968
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08-24-2010 6:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by ringo
08-24-2010 6:06 PM

Re: Part of the Problem
This comes back to my original question: How do you measure good vs. evil? How evil can you be in "getting rid of" another evil?
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If someone wants to cut my head off I won't stop to consider the good/evil problem.
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I'll take it for granted that they're evil. Close enough for my purposes anyway.
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08-24-2010 10:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 38 by Dogmafood
08-24-2010 9:49 PM

A monkey on our back
As a species we carry a monkey on our back.
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I've never heard it expressed that way, but that's a brilliant summation!
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