Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California

But why should religious people be protected to discriminate on the grounds of sexual orientation, yet no other person(s) or business would be protected in the same manner?

I don't care what you think about the issue now. Just do me a favor and stop watching/reading those ads and spit them back out at us.

Doctors must treat the patient in the emergency room, correct? Does this mean that people must, therefore, go to the emergency room? Restaurants must accept every potential customer as long as the customer is reasonable, correct? Does this mean that I have to go into the restaurant?

Marriage is a business. If they want to participate in the business, they have to follow the rule of business. The exception doesn't make any sense to me.

Nobody is saying the religion should go against its own beliefs. If they don't like marrying gay people, then don't participate in the business.

If you're a doctor and don't like treating transexuals, then go find another profession. If you're a restaurant owner but you don't like to serve black people, go find something else to do. If you're a catholic pe... priest and you don't like to marry gay people, then go do your catholic priest thing and let others do the marrying part.

Why should they get a free ticket to discriminate when we don't allow other businesses to discriminate?

But they are the only group who is actively opposing homosexual marriage. They are trying to dictate secular affairs.

Now all civil servants should not discriminate, but if a church doesn't want to marry someone for religious reasons, however bigoted, then that's their right. It's one of the reasons I'm not a religious person is that most religions seem to be more about hating other groups of people than truely helping all people.

Only protests, though? There are plenty of religious politicians, judges, people in positions of sway, etc. who are fighting this as well through various legal means. Said individuals also have the financial support of churches.

Who said anything about the legality of it?

I've made no statements about what I favor, now have I? So how would you know?

There really is no reverse situation since there is no proposition to deny anyone religious freedoms (unless you include the christian opposition to the Mosque at ground zero....which of course would do nothing to my point).

I agree with you. You are native American? I support your efforts to drive all the European thieves and murders back to England and the other the Imperialist countries that have made such a polluted shambles of this once pristine continent and committed genocide against the rightful inhabitants. I'm sick of all the evil white Europeans desecrating the earth. Let them despoil Europe and fight among themselves but leave the rest of the world alone. I agree with you. You are native American? I support your efforts to drive all the European thieves and murders back to England and the other the Imperialist countries that have made such a polluted shambles of this once pristine continent and committed genocide against the rightful inhabitants. I'm sick of all the evil white Europeans desecrating the earth. Let them despoil Europe and fight among themselves but leave the rest of the world alone.

This came from a polish man protesting against the judge's decision on the unconstitutionality of prop 8.

Predominantly black and latino counties in California are fighting to keep prop 8.
At least white people have an excuse to be bigots. They've been bigots since god smiled on white people ages ago. But all these communities who have been subjected to ongoing prejudices have absolutely no excuse to turn around and discriminate others.Actually, I'm going to start openly support changing the constitution to fight anchor babies. If they want to play this game, I'll play with them. Let's crack down on illegals. Let's require everyone carry around their papers so that we can pull over all the ones who look like they might be illegal.Woke up this morning and what did I hear? Predominantly black and latino counties in California are fighting to keep prop 8.
At least white people have an excuse to be bigots. They've been bigots since god smiled on white people ages ago. But all these communities who have been subjected to ongoing prejudices have absolutely no excuse to turn around and discriminate others.Actually, I'm going to start openly support changing the constitution to fight anchor babies. If they want to play this game, I'll play with them. Let's crack down on illegals. Let's require everyone carry around their papers so that we can pull over all the ones who look like they might be illegal.

I've already pointed this out before. I didn't say latino and black people. I said latino and black communities. Not referring to their race. I'm referring to their communities.

Are you going to deny the stats that 70-80% of them are anti gay?

So, let's be politically correct and ignore the obvious prejudice coming from both these communities?

I'd be lying if I say I find it surprising, since I've known for a long time that those browns and blacks have double standards. On the one hand, they demand equality, but on the other they demand to be able to discriminate against others. They need to learn respect for other people, because they just lost me as their ally.

You conveniently left out the 70-80% figure from the latino and black communities. What happened to the old nem jug? You're all... politically correct nowadays.