Say, somebody claims to have found evidence for the Exodus, yet he has fabricated (this means he made it himself, and it is thus not evidence for anything) this evidence himself. Say, a tablet with hyroglyphs that mentions moses, now this does not contradict the bible. If that is all the tests it has to pass to be said to be genuine, will it be accepted as such, yet it is a fraud.
i am ignoring the insult which hurts you more than it hurts me.
what you are saying is impossible because God would know it was a fraud and we would rely on the Holy Spirit to show us the truth.
we go through this all the time, if it isn't noah's ark, it is mt. sinai it is som eother hard to find place or artifact. you forget that we have both christian and secular experts examining every piece of evidence to make sure it is correct.
now let' take mt. sinai. Both the caldwells and bob cornuke have taken pictures of the mountain they claim is sinai (i have the caldwell's book and cornuke's dvd), nearby is a split rock. they both claim it is the split rock of the exodus fame. PROBLEM is they can't prove it true. its a split rock but they cannot prove it split 3,500 yeaes ago or that the supposed water from this one came out at that time.
in dealing with scriptural events and artifacts, there is no real test that will conclusively prove it to be what is claimed. sure one can put hieroglyphics on a tablet or monument but they can't fake the patina, they may not be able to write the ancient way thus the grammer would be off, et al. there are too many factors involved that would make it very difficult to pass off a forged item as real.
look at the james ossuary, the trial about its legitimacy has been going on for 4 years regardless of the experts (mostly secular) claims that it is not a forgery. guess what, we will never be able to prove it to be the ossuary of the real james who was the brother of Jesus. I have BAS's Jerusalem forgery conference report about this very item in my book case.
so your example fails because we are talking about the past and events that cannot be proven, and that is an orange compared to your apple of modern day scientists who can be shown to be wrong, or forged their studies simply because ceretain facts do not line up. you also have a confession soit makes your question a little moot.
Not if that is the only criterium you guys use. You see, this guy's findings were in favour of evolution, they were agreeing with it, meaning that if we would use the same criteria as you, we would declare it true regardless of it being a fraud.
when i wrote those words, i had in mind spoken declarations, or ideaologies etc., when it comes to physical evidence it is a different scenario though we would have clues like his tones, inflections, his mannerisms, his verbal story to indicate if he was lying or not.
we also have a very small archaeological community who would question things very thoroughly so it would be very hard to pass off an item as true when it was FABRICATED.
we believers have an advantage over you secularists, we have God on our side who doesn't want us falling victim to lies while you have te devil who wants you to be deceived and that makes a world of difference in dealing with these type of situations.
what bolderdash was upset about was jar's and other's declaration that the so-called self correcting aspect of science was flawless and did its job. it wasn't and it failed for 8 years. Add toti the fact that this isn't the first case, but thousands upon thousands of similar cases have been committed thus you cannot promote someting as ideal when it is not.
Would you ask god how atomic fision works then?
doesn't have to be in the Bible for God to show us how to get to the answer. since i am not an atomic physicist i wouldn't be asking and even in archaeology i would not ask to find the ark of the convenant for that may not be in His will for me to find BUT i would ask for the right spot to dig in to find truth, to give Him glory for what is found.
yet it is not like He is handing out candy every time someone asks Himsomething. there are 3 answers He will give, possibly 4; yes, no, not at this time, or itis not for you to do.
the rules are very different and there is a lot to take into consideration.
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