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Stop playing dumb.
Since I haven't been in this thread for some time, I think I was asking a valid question, since different stories require different points, and to argue effectively, I need to know where we are reading from. Shut it.
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Do you want to keep playing dumb? Do you want me to keep quoting more passages?
I love you. God says to love your enemies.
"But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."
Numbers 31:14-18
This is another example of armies killing the women and children. This, as well as the Jericho story can be explained readily. Before Christ, everything had physical requirements. Gods people paid for their sins by sacrificing a clean animal to God. Men were required to be physically circumsized, etc.
The people that were killed were not saved, and did not pay for their sins, and under the covenant with Abram (or Abraham), God delivered the land to his decendants.
Some 500 years after the flood, nations that descended from Shem, Ham and Japheth had turned from the true God and made their own ‘gods’ — idols of wood and stone — with elaborate systems of worship of their own devising, often involving human sacrifice.
These people did not have favour in Gods eyes. Virgins could be cleansed, since they had not laid with a man who was not saved. The Bible says that a child is born with the sins of his/her father in Romans 8, and thus the children would have been born into sin (this is also the reason Jesus did not have an earthly father).
The Christian God is a loving, but very strict one. This is evident in the Soddom and Gommorah, the flood, and in the end times stories, that everyone was destroyed in. The people that were killed did not believe in God.
So I suppose to answer your question, the virgins were kept not to be raped, but to become members of Gods people (though the Bible does not say whether they were raped or not, this action would be contradictory to the teachings of Jesus, and the Ten Commmandments, that say to love your neighbor as yourself). The story of Jacobs daughter being raped also implies, that since Jacob and his sons were angry about the rape, it was not socially acceptable to rape, especially within Gods tribes.
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Picking and choosing what you want to hear?
Since you didn't argue my point, I'm going to assume you are stumped for the time being. But lets see who is trying to pick and choose what they want to hear...
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if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife.
You will notice that they are allowed to take the woman they find attractive as their WIFE, which is a scared and holy partnership. The Bible makes no mention that the men are allowed to take the women to their tents and rape them, then throw them away.
As well, you have to understand, that just in the last few hundred years did women start taking steps towards having equal rights, anywhere in the world. In some parts of the world, women still have no rights, compared to men. Though we live in a country (I'm in Canada, and this applies, not sure where you are from) where women have equal rights, this was not the case in the past. This is also true with the Bible.
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23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to deaththe girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
Yes? Many people were stoned to death for their crimes. Again, physical judgement was not uncommon in the old testiment.
"3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
John 8:3-11
I can quote all day too Tazzy bear. Under the new covenant, Jesus taught not to judge, lest ye be judged (Matthew 7).
Jesus forgave a woman deserving of being stoned to death, and forgave her.
I'm not sure what your point is. Capital punishment is still active today, but not as (arguably) brutal and painful. Is your point that death for breaking the law is wrong? I'm missing your point.
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I'm curious as to how long you can keep up this game of playing dumb. Do you want me to quote more passages?
Yes. I do. None of the passages say anything about forced sex, rape, or even unwillingless. You are speaking to the state of mind of people that you have never met, in a land of rules you are completely unfamiliar with. Furthurmore, the men entered into a sacred holy bond with the women, which would point to the opposite of rape, and in times of war, the men were required to wait a period of one month before they were allowed to court the virgins. You quote scripture like you understand it's meaning, but actually quote passages that support MY viewpoint.
This says you are wrong:
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
There is a price to pay if you rape, PLUS you are required to marry her after, and cannot divorce.
This says your wrong:
"But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter. For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman CRIED OUT, but there was no one to save her. If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and THEY ARE found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days."
Deuteronomy 22:25-29
This says you are wrong:
"Now Jacob heard that he had defiled his daughter Dinah. But his sons were with his livestock in the field, so Jacob held his peace until they came. And Hamor the father of Shechem went out to Jacob to speak with him. The sons of Jacob had come in from the field as soon as they heard of it, and the men were indignant and very angry, because he had done an outrageous thing in Israel by lying with Jacob's daughter, for such a thing must not be done." Genesis 34:4-7
This says you are wrong:
"And Tamar took the cakes she had made and brought them into the chamber to Amnon her brother. But when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her and said to her, ‘Come, lie with me, my sister.’ She answered him, ‘No, my brother, do not violate me, for such a thing is not done in Israel; do not do this outrageous thing. As for me, where could I carry my shame? And as for you, you would be as one of the outrageous fools in Israel."
2 Samuel 13:10-13
I have to stop, it's too easy.
You're in the big leagues now boy. But I still love you.
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