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Topic: "Creation Science" experiments.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Re: No takers?
One could try saying "let there be light" loudly, in a Charlton Heston sort of voice but in the absence of voice-activated lamps, and see if anything happens.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Re: Creation/ID "Science" and Discovery
BTW, water can deposit sand dunes just as effectively as wind. File that statement along with a note to look up "angle of repose" until we get to the Coconino Sandstone. Or do your own experiment with making sand piles with 25-degree sides under water.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 146 of 396 (581747)
09-17-2010 10:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 137 by slevesque
09-16-2010 11:32 PM
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Re: Creation/ID "Science" and Discovery
In my experiments with play sand, a glass pie pan, and a protractor, I found angles of repose of less than 5 degrees under water and around 30 degrees for dry sand. Moist sand, as sand-castle builders all know, is fine with angles of repose of 90 degrees or more: it just can't repose there very long after it dries, and goes to to very low angles IMMEDIATELY on being submerged. Crossbeds like those in the Coconino aren't going to form underwater. Get your own protractor and publish your experimental results right here!
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 175 of 396 (581944)
09-18-2010 9:13 AM
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...rather than blown together by a chance wind storm and lightning strikes. Your point being...? If you are referring to, say, human life, remember that you are the product of many billions of generations of organisms that all survived long enough to reproduce. And the did so despite chance wind storms and lightning strikes.
Actually time is a human invention and therefore only relevant within the construct of human thought. Bologna. Are you telling me a bear in the woods doesn't age unless a human is nearby with a calendar? That a smallish star doesn't start as a cloud of gas and end up as a white dwarf even if nobody is timing it?
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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things were not originally designed to wear out. And there will come a day when our physical bodies take on an incorruptible nature and no longer wear out. That's doctrine, or preaching, or wishful thinking. Or unsupported assertion. When my physical body wears out, I expect it to be consumed by bacteria, unless I decide to have it cremated and have my phosphate-rich ashes contribute to soil fertility in Taos Canyon. "Incorruptible" applies to the Chicago police department better than to dead meat.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 293 of 396 (584160)
09-30-2010 4:20 PM
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Hmm. "Things that look designed...."
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Re: How Intelligent Design qualifies as a scientific theory
I would have to see at least one example of improved functional mutations observed taking place in a non-bacterial multi-celled organism first. Then you might want to read up on apolipoprotein A1 in Italy or on hemoglobin C in Burkina Faso. Humans are pretty much multi-celled, no? And less heart attacks or less malaria could be construed as "improved function," right? No matter whether Answers in Genesis disagrees?
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 323 of 396 (584925)
10-04-2010 5:48 PM
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Tell me.....
JBR, is this ground "designed?"
Yes, or no? Does your five-year-old agree?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 358 of 396 (586449)
10-13-2010 11:24 AM
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To repeat myself yet again: JBR, is this ground "designed?"
Yes, or no? Does your five-year-old agree?
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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They are no different than the patterns observed in crystals. Interesting, complex, but not particularized (specific). Crystals aren't organized in a specific arrangement of ions/molecules? Chlorate ions get to pick how they will stack in a left-handed crystal of sodium chlorate? Really?
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