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Message 16 of 110 (578791)
09-02-2010 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tram law
09-01-2010 4:49 PM

Re: Religion in Schools
Hi Tram,
Tram law writes:
As for me, I will never support religion in schools.
I can agree with that.
I can also agree with the Continental Congress that the Bible is a good book.
In 1781 Robert Aitken presented a petition to Congress offering to print "a neat Edition of the Holy Scripture for the use of Schools.
For those who question whether congress approved the printing you can find a copy of the Journals of Congress Here.
And Here.
Tram law writes:
Christianity teaches that only proper Christians get to go to heaven,
As you did not define your meaning of Christianity, proper Christian and religion it is hard to follow your OP.
If you mean by Christianity as those who claim to be a christian then you are probably right in your assesment.
If you mean by proper Christian as being a person who has been born again of the Holy Spirit and are living their life like Christ lived His life, yes they will be in Heaven.
But they are not the only people who will be in Heaven.
Tram law writes:
And for me, if God exists, it is only God who gets to determine who is a proper Christian.
God did set the rules and we can not change them.
John writes:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
These verses says God loved mankind and provided a way mankind could be saved. Jesus did not come to condemn mankind as mankind was already condemned.
God gives the only reason mankind is condemned and that is not believeing in what took place at Calvary and accepting that by believing in Jesus for their salvation.
God set no other requirements to become a child of His.
All children of God will be in Heaven.
Tram law writes:
To that end, I have to ask, why isn't Church and the home enough?
You have those in the wrong order.
The order should be home and then Church.
Because the home is in a shambles, the Church is in a shambles and our country is in total chaos.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 21 of 110 (579400)
09-04-2010 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by purpledawn
09-03-2010 8:10 AM

Re: Religion in Schools
Hi PD,
purpledawn writes:
Just because some churches aren't doing their job to teach their religion, doesn't mean it is up to the public school system to teach their religion.
If religion is ever taught in government controled schools it would probably be necessary to teach it in a philosophy class to avoid being unconstitutional. The constitution states the government is not allowed to establish a national religion or church. To teach any one version would be establishing a national religion.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
So I seem to agree with you that my specific religious beliefs should not be taught in a public school system.
There are private schools that do that quite well.
God Bless,
This is one of the most misunderstood statements ever made.

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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