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Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 43 (579763)
09-05-2010 11:17 PM


Exodus Revealed Video
Perhaps it would be good to view Lennart Mollart's claimed evidence.
The primary reason further research has not been done is that Egypt has forbidden anything to be removed from the region under their jurisdiction and then there's the Saudis on the other side who have the Mt Sinai region restricted.
Likely the Muslims have a reluctance to verify anything Biblical which would look good for Israel.
Then there's the secularists who apparantly have no interest in verifying anything Biblical.
I have Lennart's complete video, the Exodus Revealed and his book, The Exodus Case. He's a scientist who has done scientific research on this and no crackpot. His exploration was undertaken after Wyatt's death and independently of Wyatt. Wyatt, who was not a scientst, was the one who first pioneered and explored the region.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 20 of 43 (579828)
09-06-2010 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Omnivorous
09-05-2010 11:24 PM


Re: Exodus Revealed Video
I have followed this for decades, beginning with listening to Wyatt lecture at a college before he died when he showed us 35mm slides of his expeditions. I met him and had a talk with him after the lecture. I believe this was back in the 1980s. I have his book on Noah's ark and the Mollart videos.
According to Wyatt's Noah's Ark book, the only thing the Israelis disallowed his revealing was the Ark Of The Covenant, which he says was found by revelation in a cave under what is considered the site of Golgatha, the Biblical place where Jesus was crucified.
Beyond that, he was allegedly admonished not to digress on this. So far as I am aware, the Israelis had no objection to his other discoveries.
BTW, all of Wyatt's expeditions, were based on Biblical record data, such as Sinai being in Arabia and the land of Midian, etc. The reason Swedish scientist Lennart Mollart became interested in Wyatt's pioneered discoveries was that he too, agreed that Wyatt's discoveries were consistent with the Biblical record, whereas the traditional Mt. Sinai and the route leading to that traditional site was meither consistent with the Biblical record or even a possibility topographically as a crossing site. .
He has been maligned, not only by secularists, but but none other than ICR, whose founder Dr John Morris Sr thought Noah's ark should be high on Mt Ararat, when in fact, that is not consistent with the Biblical account. I have had some exchanges of contact with Morris on this in the past. Though I support much of what ICR does, I fault Morris for refusing to acknowledge Wyatt's credibility. Imo, he, like the secularists would have to admit he was wrong and would have to revise all of what he has claimed and written/published relative to Noah's Ark and the Exodus, etc.
Interestlingly, when you Google Exodus evidence The Mollart evidence does not come up for a couple of pages and then scanty. There's too much at stake for secularists (and for that matter, some creationists) for them to acknowledge anything relative to Wyatt, et al as credible.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Name spell correction

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 43 (579852)
09-06-2010 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Huntard
09-06-2010 9:25 AM


Re: Exodus Revealed Video
Huntard writes:
Oh please. Google works by taking the links that are clicked the most and places them at the top. This just means that people aren't interested in the Wyatt/Mollart evidence. As a consequence, not many click that link, which means it is more further down, which in turn of course means that it won't be clicked as much.
Thanks for apprising some of us who were not aware on how search engines work. That explains why so many sheeple are unaware of evidence which is available on the Exodus and other Biblical creationist phenomena. If they're unaware, they don't search for specific evidences. Whatever is promoted in secularistic academia and the public media is what gets highlighted in the search engines.
Huntard writes:
Also, I'll take a look at your video this evening (or is it the same one you provided in the previous thread?), and let you know what I think.
The link I gave is just one segment of a few minutes of the Exodus Revealed DVD. There are four parts to the DVD plus another suppliment which you can view relative to corroborating evidence revealing the Aqaba region as the crossing and Mt Sinai in Arabia/Midian, etc..
Now Huntard, I am expecting that this evening, the first thing EvC's Huntard, along with a host of other members will do is to surprise us all with, "Praise Jehovah! My eyes are open! Scientific evidence for the Exodus evidence exists."

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 26 of 43 (579863)
09-06-2010 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by jar
09-06-2010 9:56 AM


Re: Exodus Revealed Video
jar writes:
Buzsaw writes:
The primary reason further research has not been done is that Egypt has forbidden anything to be removed from the region under their jurisdiction and then there's the Saudis on the other side who have the Mt Sinai region restricted.
That is simply not true. Both Egypt and Saudi Arabia have very active archaeological studies and Egypt regularly has materials sent out for analysis all over the world.
Ron Wyatt and his boys were imprisoned for 78 days when he tried to explore the real Mt Sinai, Jebel al-Lawz in the land of Midian in Saudi Arabia.
Jim and Penny Caldwell's story
Jim and Penny Caldwell's story of their 12 year experience living in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia reads more like a riveting novel of danger and intrigue than the true life story of a couple drawn to the Middle East because of employment in the oil and gas industry. With what began as a fascinating job opportunity there for Jim, he & Penny, along with their two small children Lucas and Chelsea took residence in the Eastern Province of Arabia on the Persian Gulf in the late 1980's. Little did they know that four years later they would be living "life on the edge" on a tumultuous covert mission, trekking through the ancient desert to research the archeological remains and location of the real Mount Sinai in the northwest corner of the country: a portion of the Hejaz mountain range better known as "Jebel al Lawz." Yes, we're talking about the same mountain of the Biblical account and the 40 year wandering of the Israelites. The Saudis have this area fenced in and actively guarded; a sharp warning to anyone attempting to get a closer look. "WHY?" one may ask. That's where the intrigue begins....
With 15 trips into this area along with their photographs and video evidence, not to mention the many detailed journals from each excursion that Penny wrote on site, the Caldwell's field reports make them the MOST experienced and knowledgeable westerners on the topic of Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia. Books, videos, and websites about this topic have all been produced for others around the evidence Jim and Penny continued to uncover and share year after year, though their names could not be known while still inside the kingdom. Their live presentation will take one on a riveting experience to the very edge of their seats as they are now finally able to share about backpacking their way into restricted areas and behind forbidden fences, leading them at times to arrest at gunpoint by the frontier forces police. Yes that's right, semi-automatic weapons pointed right in the faces of their two small children! Never the less, they were "called" back to the mountain to gather as much data as possible, for they knew their mandate would one day be to take that which is actively being hidden away from sight to the world! And this, in of all places in Saudi Arabia!
ABE: My apologies. I was posting simultaneously to Admin's admonishment.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 28 of 43 (579867)
09-06-2010 11:13 AM


Moving on.
Since I have supplied all that I have on the chariot wheels and since corroborating evidence supportive to the topic at hand is considered off topic in this thead, perhaps I will have no further comment relative to this topic.
If something comes to mind relative to topic I will aire it.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 43 (579957)
09-06-2010 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
09-06-2010 11:18 AM


Re: Moving on.
jar writes:
Since all of the area the Hebrew exodus supposedly trekked through was Egyptian Territory and had been so for a long, long time and would remain so for even longer, even if some chariot wheels were found, how would that provide evidence in support of the Biblical Exodus?
Did you watch the dvd segment which I cited? Mollar explains that the coral reefs common to the gulf body of water were orderly and closely knit in larger beds whereas the floor region which he researched and photographed was a scattered junk yard like litter of blotches of coral crusted formations, a few which resembled wheels and axels.
Given the quantity of formations and considering that several millenniums of time had done it's toll along with gulf currents, etc, one should assume that a signle ship wreck of a few charriots from some other source would be very unlikely.
Keep in mind, as well, all of the corroborating evidence that led the explorers to that site in the first place, it being the only site which fit the corroborating data relative to it.
This wheel thread is somewhat a waste of time, since it becomes essentially a divide and conquer thread for skeptics when debated, void of all of the corroborating stuff supportive to it.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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