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Author Topic:   Some thoughts on moderation & banning
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Message 16 of 29 (577635)
08-29-2010 8:41 PM
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08-29-2010 7:43 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
Hi Bolder-dash,

Your post was not erased, it was hidden. Click on Edit or Peek and you'll see that all the text is still there.

If you'd like to participate in a constructive discussion about moderation and enforcement then this is a good thread for that. If you just want to sound off then your posts will be hidden. I understand you're feeling frustrated, but your energy would be better directed toward keeping your focus on the topics of discussion threads.


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Message 17 of 29 (577643)
08-29-2010 9:54 PM
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08-29-2010 8:41 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
But Percy, my post was EXACTLY about moderation, and banning-which is the exact topic of this thread.. It could not possibly be more clear. And yet, for some reason you still chose to hide it.
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Message 18 of 29 (577690)
08-30-2010 4:10 AM


Hiding off-topic content. --Admin
i have no problems with being suspended or having moderators do bannings. I just wish they would apply the rules to everyone evenly. I am told to 'support my comments' then see so many responses to my words without support.

the burden of proof is not solely upon me, people who have contrary arguments need to support and prove their position just as i am reguired to do.

it is not my fault that other people reject my evidence or dismiss it without consideration. Evidence is evidence and after awhile when it is continually rejected and more is demanded, one just won't do it anymore.

the Bible is evidence, it is the only eye witness document of the past and the only verifiable document for origins and other events. it is not my fault that the secularists reject it and refuse to consider it evidence. {it is not their call to make}

it is not my fault that secular science is limited and designed to look for the wrong answers in the wrong places. you cannot discuss with someone on a topic like gold, when they are mining for lead and looking at lead for their answers to the gold supply.

when secularists stop manipulating the playing field to receive only the answers they want to hear, then maybe a discussion could take place, but that would mean that the secularist would have to be honest in their responses and points. {which few can achieve}

i have supplied evidence, quotes, even from secular sorces but it is never good enough so if you do not like my posts then i expect to be banned shortly because there is only so much evidence in existence and if that isn't good enough for the secularist then tough titties. God requires faith as part fo the equation and that is going to be constant throughout all discussions with christians.

secular science has no footing, no authority to demand anything else. it is a usurper in the theological field and does not belong. this does not mean that science has no part of the religious life, it just means that the secular version is moot and not allowed.

if you want to discuss with me, then discuss but do it honestly and with credible links to legitimate references so i can refute what you say. I will provide links as well or book titles as i prefer books to the internet so you can see i am not the only one who thinks that way.

it is not my fault

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Message 19 of 29 (577698)
08-30-2010 4:43 AM
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08-30-2010 4:10 AM


A link or two
i have supplied evidence

Evidence please. A few links to your posts will do just fine, all the ones I read are just your assertions.


Hiding off topic comments. AdminPD

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Message 20 of 29 (577751)
08-30-2010 9:36 AM
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08-29-2010 9:54 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
Bolder-dash writes:

But Percy, my post was EXACTLY about moderation, and banning-which is the exact topic of this thread.. It could not possibly be more clear. And yet, for some reason you still chose to hide it.

You're free to constructively discuss, but if you simply sound off with a litany of complaints then your posts will be hidden. This thread is for discussing possibilities concerning moderation and enforcement, not for complaining about how biased the moderators are and what a poor job they are doing.

I understand you're frustrated, but I think you would be best served by keeping your focus on providing constructive replies in the discussion threads.

If you're having problems in a discussion thread then the proper thread is Report discussion problems here: No.2.


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Message 21 of 29 (577776)
08-30-2010 11:02 AM
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08-30-2010 4:10 AM


Moderator Response
archeologist writes:

I just wish they would apply the rules to everyone evenly.

If you're having problems in a discussion, in this case where you believe moderators are not enforcing the Forum Guidelines fairly, then the place to raise such issues is in the Report discussion problems here: No.2 thread.

The place to raise your other issues is your Creation as Science thread.


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Message 22 of 29 (581228)
09-14-2010 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Bolder-dash
08-29-2010 7:43 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
This thread is for bringing discussion problems to the attention of moderators. It is not a complaint thread. --Admin

bolderdash--this forum has a double standard and it is always in favor of the secularist. they can't handle the word 'retarded' thus they had to suspend me which did not good as it shows their hypocrisy and intolerance of others. they claim christians are intolerant and closed minded but the athiest and secular crowd are far worse than they accuse believers of being.

this place is actually a joke as it is meant to rubber stamp their deceitful and lying ways and in now way promotes real, and honest discussion. they want everyone to join their way of thinking even though they are wrong on all counts.

they are the ones in need of learning not the believer and they are the ones in need of a savior, the truth and they refuse to open their minds and eyes and really see how far off they really are.

they love to hide behind words like 'show me the scientific evidence' when science cannot produce any evidence for evolution, in fact they have never done one real evolutionary experiment and cannot show that that process really exists. they have to steal from God and give the credit to some imaginary theory just to give them a boost in the self-image department.

they cannot be honest in any discussion and it is worthless coming here to debate because they will dismiss any evidence they do not want to consider without any evidence to support their dismissal.

satan told eve that she would be 'like a god if you...' and he is telling the atheist the same thing. they will be like gods because they will be able to create their own history and future. they are very deceived.

i have only one more thread to start and topic to discuss here then i will be gone from this place. if these people want to discuss with me they can then find me at my forum where the rules andmoderators are not in their favor (but i doubt they will for they like the playing field slanted in their favor so they can technically 'win' each debate and 'prove' the creationist wrong)

well the athiest is wrong as secular science is NOT the final authority, it is not the determiner of anything, and it is not needed in life for we do not need science to live (but it sure helps people die faster).

the atheist can't even give God credit for their intelligence and steal more glory fromGod and place it upon a created field that cannot provide them with what they long for--eternal life and freedom from death.

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Message 23 of 29 (581237)
09-14-2010 5:47 PM
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09-14-2010 5:28 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
This thread is for bringing discussion problems to the attention of moderators. It is not a discussion thread. --Admin

they cannot be honest in any discussion and it is worthless coming here to debate ...

I'd like to point out that no-one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to debate here.

If you truly believe that "it is worthless coming here to debate", then you are at perfect liberty to stop doing so.

On the other hand, if you want to keep on doing something that you yourself deem "worthless", you can do that too. But those of us who are sane might wonder why you expend all this effort on something that you yourself think is "worthless".

Why not spend your time doing stuff that you think is useful? Try reading the Sermon On The Mount --- Jesus listed lots of things that you might usefully do. But instead you expend your energy on an activity that you condemn as "worthless".

Why?

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Message 24 of 29 (581240)
09-14-2010 6:16 PM
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09-14-2010 5:28 PM


Re: NOT SURE where to place this
This thread is for bringing discussion problems to the attention of moderators. It is not a discussion thread. --Admin

the atheist can't even give God credit for their intelligence and steal more glory fromGod and place it upon a created field that cannot provide them with what they long for--eternal life and freedom from death.

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous remarks ever. How can a non-entity be given credit for my intelligence? Point of Issue An atheist is a non-believer in supernatural sky-daddies. If I were to give credit to a sky-daddy for my intelligence, I couldn't be an atheist.

Secondly, I don't condemn you for your beliefs, so stop condemning me for mine.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 25 of 29 (581247)
09-14-2010 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by archaeologist
09-14-2010 5:28 PM


Bye archy
This thread is for bringing discussion problems to the attention of moderators. It is not a discussion thread. --Admin

You truly are a representation of all that is wrong with your type odf christian. We like your type though. You and your ilk are responsible for driving people from Christianity.

You have no christian charity, you are judgmental and condemning.

i have only one more thread to start and topic to discuss here then i will be gone from this place.

I hope the mods do not promote any more of your topics, since all you want to do is judge and preach.

I hope the door hits you on the ass.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Message 26 of 29 (581444)
09-15-2010 4:42 PM


This thread is for bringing discussion problems to the attention of moderators. It is not a complaint thread. --Admin

You need to identify the author of the quotes when your post is not a direct reply to that poster. I've asked you this at least once before and if I have to ask again, I will suspend you for 24 hours.

i am tired of being singled out by your bullying admins. i counted 15 posters who posted exactly as i did in that one thread yet i am the only one getting the public warning.

quit the hypocrisy and double standard. clearly your moderating abilities focus on the christian and ignore the faults of your friends. learn to be honest, fair and apply your rules to all evenly.

if i get suspended then i expect to see 15 more names on that same suspension list because they all committed the same infraction.

grow up and stop being bullies. you are not tough, you do not scare me and your 'suspensions' mean nothing. you all have too much to learn about dealing with people but it is noice to see how you all undermine your stated positions by your bad moderating.

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Message 27 of 29 (581445)
09-15-2010 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by archaeologist
09-15-2010 4:42 PM


Hi Archy,

Is it a meta-joke that in this post you chose to not identify the author of the quote in a post which wasn't a direct reply?

TTFN,

WK


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Message 28 of 29 (581449)
09-15-2010 4:55 PM
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09-15-2010 4:42 PM


Just saw previous admin comments
i counted 15 posters who posted exactly as i did in that one thread yet i am the only one getting the public warning.

Please provide the evidence.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Message 29 of 29 (581452)
09-15-2010 5:03 PM
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09-15-2010 4:42 PM


Archaeologist Suspended One Week
Hi Archaeologist,

This is not a complaint thread. All we ask is that you follow the Forum Guidelines. I'm suspending you for another week.


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