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Author Topic:   Problems with being an Atheist (or Evolutionist)
ringo
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Message 179 of 276 (581473)
09-15-2010 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by riVeRraT
09-15-2010 7:43 AM


Re: Atheism IS a belief
riVeRraT writes:
Because of that, and the way atheist come across, atheist seem like nothing more than pissed off believers, who actually know God exists in their hearts, and they just want to deny Him so they can live by their own rules.
I live by higher standards than a lot of theists do. If there was a god, I expect that a lot of people would reject his rules because they're not good enough.
I also expect that a lot of people wouldn't want to go to heaven if it's full of angry theists.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 226 of 276 (582248)
09-20-2010 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by riVeRraT
09-20-2010 1:24 PM


Re: trust
riVeRraT writes:
I think Jesus taught us a bunch of things, and if you can see the truth in those things, then you are on your way to faith.
A lot of us here are moving away from faith. Faith is a second-rate system. Jesus Himself told Thomas to look at the evidence. He would like you to understand the truth in what He said and internalize it, not just have faith in it. Often atheists understand the truth in Jesus' words better than Christians do - because they don't rely on faith.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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ringo
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Message 231 of 276 (582255)
09-20-2010 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by riVeRraT
09-20-2010 2:11 PM


Re: trust
riVeRraT writes:
Not sure what you mean by faith being second rate.
Faith is a fall-back position, a backup. It should only be used when we have no evidence. Unfortunately, creationists/fundamentalists often use faith as an excuse to ignore or even deny evidence.
Using faith instead of evidence is like keeping your handbrake on all the time. It's likely to do more harm than good. Faith should be used only when it's needed (if ever).

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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