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Author Topic:   Why is it that God couldn't have made Creation with evolution?
frako
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Message 151 of 167 (579924)
09-06-2010 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Archangel
09-06-2010 9:45 AM


"How were such titanic blocks of stone brought to the top of the mountain from the quarries many miles away?
yu would be surprised what a few ropes some material to role somthing on and a few oxses and a cupple of men can move
stone tool or implement that would cut or chip the andesite
oh no's diamonds are the hardest material known to man how ever can we cut and shape them so they can look preaty on rings
diamonds are polished whit diamonds, and if there is no other tool to cut and shape andesite im guessing andesite would do, to cut it get some sand something similar to a saw it needs no teeth and cut away
How were they raised and put in place?
give me a point to stand on and i can move the Earth (ever hear about something like leverage)

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frako
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Message 163 of 167 (583675)
09-28-2010 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Kyrill of Beltsville
09-28-2010 12:21 PM


Re: Let me simplify this for you:
I believe that God created the world.
well the problem whit that is that the world could have created itself following natural laws so adding a deity in to the mix complicates matters and do to occam's Razor the simplest explanation is usually right. we cannot whit a 100% certanty god did not create the world we can say it is fare more probable that the world caused itself
For example, some claim that God caused himself to exist and also caused the universe to exist - he was the "first cause" - whereas Occam's Razor suggests that if one accepts the possibility of something causing itself then it is better to assume that it was the universe that caused itself rather than God because this explanation involves fewer entities.
Occoms razor | Article about Occoms razor by The Free Dictionary
the same goes whit god guiding evolution, we know it can happen on its own so it most probably did, invoking deities complicates matters so it is more probable that it happened on its own.
to put it simple witch of these in this situation is more probable
a vase is broken in your living room the doors are locked and the only one home was your kid.
A) the kid broke the vase
B) a stranger broke in broke the vase then left leaving no trace or evidence of him being there
whitout other evidence the logical conclusion is that the kid broke the vase
I also believe that the books of the Bible must be read with respect, attention and great care. If we want to deepen our understanding of what we are reading, we must inquire, to the extent possible, as to the intent of the human author or authors and also the context of what they have written.
well i agree whit you there and the same goes for other religius scriptures you cant use your own wive point if you read those aincent scriptures you have to put your self in the shoes and mindset of the author
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frako
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Message 165 of 167 (583701)
09-28-2010 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by barbara
09-28-2010 2:12 PM


Re: Let me simplify this for you:
25 a day go extinct if i am not mistaken mostly do to man's actions

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frako
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Message 167 of 167 (583717)
09-28-2010 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by dwise1
09-28-2010 3:41 PM


Re: Let me simplify this for you:
Among theists, Kyrill's approach is the more mature and the more intelligent one.
i agree it is a way more intelligent approach, because you cannot disprove it like you cannot disprove the stranger braking the vase in my earlier example, he could have worn gloves (no fingerprints), and he could have picked the lock whit plastic picks that leave no trace of tampering and re locked the door the same way after he left. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so there is a possibility that the stranger did it, the same could be said for god in the big bang theory or evolution it is possible though given the evidence it is a very remote possibility and it is impossible for science to disprove it though an educated guess of science would be no god whit these facts as would the jury say the kid did it there was no stranger

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