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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
I get the idea from reading about the beliefs of atheist evolutionists ... And just who created those writing that you've been reading? In short, what are your sources?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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"transcendental morality"? What is that supposed to mean? Is it like transcendental medication? Do they give each of you your own personal mantra? I know they told you not to share your mantra with anybody, but that doesn't mean you can't tell anyone that you have one.
Now, given your truly lousy record for replying, I'll take a stab at what you mean. You're talking about morality imposed upon us externally by a supernatural entity. Sorry, no need for that. The gods have nothing whatsoever to do with morality. Whatever would make you think that they do? Atheists are people, no different from theists. We have relationships of all kinds -- probably more normal relationships than theists do (judging, in part, by the wide range of weird ideas we see being forwarded all the time by theists). At the very least we have common decency and treat ourselves and others with common decency. Why shouldn't we? Some of our relationships are sexual and we want to treat our partners with the respect that they are due. Why would we want to do anything that would jeopardize the relationship? Your assumptions come through and they are weird! I responded to your opening post in this topic and you have never replied to it. Here it is again:
dwise1 writes: I get the idea from reading about the beliefs of atheist evolutionists ...
And just who created those writing that you've been reading? In short, what are your sources? Seriously, what are your sources? Because they are seriously misleading you. If you keep using them it'll lead to a serious case of brain rot. Really, where are you getting your weird ideas from? For one thing, your sources are what's making you obsess about sexual perversities. That obsession certainly seems to be a definite Christian thing, not at all an atheist thing. I've seem so many fundamentalists insist completely seriously that if their god did not exist, then they would have no personal responsibility at all and could do everything and anything they wanted to regardless of how sexually perverse -- indeed, the more perverse the better! I have also corresponded with a creation-science activist, Bill Morgan, who claims to have been an atheist, but he was only pretending to be one. Here is what he himself wrote on his pretend deconversion; pay especial attention to the last two paragraphs, plus I added bolding to a key statement:
quote: BTW, the reason why I know that he was only pretending is that he had told me that every night that he was an "atheist" he prayed to God. Whisky, Tango, Foxtrot, Oscar? No actual atheist would do that, but only a pretend atheist. If you know any Bible verse that says otherwise, do please quote it, book, chapter, and verse. That's a major problem that your "transcendental morality" causes for believers: it presents them with a huge tempting loophole. They want to indulge in all kinds of depravity, but their religion teaches them that they cannot indulge themselves, unless they become atheists. So, like Bill, they pretend to be atheists just so they can indulge in depravity. So they think that depravity is part of the atheist condition. Such idiots! Stop, think, discuss. Then maybe you can eventually stop being as bass-ackwards as your name.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Probably tequila straight too. I think that would be the only way to get that taste out of your mouth. quote: Got that from my suegra (mother-in-law), so it must be true. That stuff does do wonders. As for what it would do to that taste in your mouth, yo mismo prefiero tacos.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Well. if you guys atheists have to be defensive with your sex practices, that is fine by me. What defensive? We, at least, have been honest and straight-forward in our responses. Just because you're obsessed with sexual perversions doesn't mean that we should be.
And that shows that you do have a transcendental moral heart and mind. No, just moral. "Transcendental morality" (TM) was a purely hypothetical seventh stage of Kohlberg's theory of moral development; IOW, no evidence that such a thing even exists (for that matter, Kohlberg couldn't even find empirical evidence for his sixth stage, "moral reasoning is based on abstract reasoning using universal ethical principles", so even he emphasized that a seventh stage was purely speculative). So any talk of TM is purely speculative, such that definitive conclusions such as you had just jumped to are completely groundless. If you disagree, then please give a reasoned argument; I've seen your other posts, so I'll not be holding my breath awaiting that reasoned argument. Using Kohlberg, TM is not at all necessary for us to not be as obsessed as a Christian in sexual perversions. Conventional stages 3 and 4 (where most adults and adolescents are: 3.Interpersonal accord and conformity (Social norms), and 4.Authority and social-order maintaining orientation (Law and order morality)) up through post-conventional stages 5 and 6 (5.Social contract orientation and 6. Universal ethical principles (Principled conscience)) would more than account for our morality. No need to invoke some non-existent purely hypothetical 7th stage. Also, believe it or not (obviously not, since you are obsessed), a lot of that stuff just does not interest us. Sure, we'll look to see what it is, but that doesn't mean that we want to do it. When I was last in Germany (1974), I picked up a book on German obscene terms (Sex im Volksmund: Der obszne Wortschatz der Deutschen, collected through 10 years of field research; unfortunately, the author gave no indication of which fields those were). There are practices mentioned in there that I would have never in my wildest dreams have even started to imagine existed. Would I want to go out and engage in those practices? Uh, no, they just don't appeal to me. A matter of taste, something which I guess Christians must lack.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
OK, sorry, but as an atheist of about 45 years, porn is pretty boring. Remember Pete Barbutti on the Mike Douglas Show? His take on porn movies was to count the thrusts. OK, some weird stuff may show up, but who cares?
OK, does sex matter? Yes it does! Where does it matter? In relationships! That is where these Christian non-thinkers keep getting it wrong!
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