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seanfhear
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Message 16 of 21 (585112)
10-05-2010 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tram law
10-03-2010 4:04 PM


Why do we need "C"?
My daughter is a teacher and she just recently told me about a trend that is developing in her school where students increasingly insert their phonetic spelling from texting in their written schoolwork. These are Jr. High School kids. Some actually spell cat kat even though it doesn’t shorten the spelling. The trend may have as much to do with phonics as with shortening the spelling. American English spelling may be evolving at this very moment.
Why isn’t phonics spelled foniks?

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Message 17 of 21 (585115)
10-05-2010 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by seanfhear
10-05-2010 8:34 PM


Re: Why do we need "C"?
Whatever, try the following real spellings:
bough, rough, cough and borough.
they could as easily be spelt:
bau, ruf, kof and boro.
{abe} It is no wonder English speakers can't spell well.
Edited by bluescat48, : added abe

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Nij
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Message 18 of 21 (585128)
10-05-2010 11:23 PM
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10-05-2010 8:34 PM


Re: Why do we need "C"?
Why isn’t phonics spelled foniks
Similarly with 'graph', 'elephant' and any otehr word using that stupid ph.
I find it especially amusing given that many of those words have a Greek root, where that consonant pair is represented by a single letter. And that letter already has an equivalent in nearly every language that only uses a single letter.
Perhaps a better question would be "who the hell decided to use PH when translating instead of the normal bloody F like everyone else?!"

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Message 19 of 21 (585133)
10-06-2010 1:17 AM
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10-03-2010 4:04 PM


And how about the second epistle to the Thessalonians?
Do we really need two? I think not.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 20 of 21 (585134)
10-06-2010 1:52 AM
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10-05-2010 11:23 PM


Φ
Perhaps a better question would be "who the hell decided to use PH when translating instead of the normal bloody F like everyone else?!"
The answer, of course, is the ancient Romans. The fact that they did so when they had a perfectly good letter F tells us that in classical times the Greeks must have pronounced Φ not as an F as they do today but as an aspirated P (/ph/ in the International Phonetic Alphabet).

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caffeine
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Message 21 of 21 (585138)
10-06-2010 3:44 AM
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10-05-2010 6:59 AM


and then we have i dunno if english produces that sound
English does use that sound, in words like 'fusion', but we don't have any special letter for it.
Edit: Although, when writing things phonetically, people usually write it as a 'zh', following the example of 'sh' and 'ch'.
Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.

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