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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
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Message 61 of 163 (585549)
10-08-2010 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by dyluck
10-08-2010 4:59 PM


Re: Life After Death
Hi Dyluck, didn't you kill yourself, forcing Thanatos to revert to a skeletal lich form?
Edited by Larni, : Hilarious joke!

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dyluck
Member (Idle past 4914 days)
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Joined: 10-06-2010


Message 62 of 163 (585557)
10-08-2010 6:25 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by ringo
10-08-2010 5:40 PM


Re: Life After Death
Hmm do you have to earn an ability to quote in the forum?
Anyway:
"Maybe He should take the hint."
Point proven.
"Atheists and agnostics often have a higher standard of morality than theists because they empathize with their fellow humans instead of seeing them as depraved sinners."
There is no competition for morality...
Question for you though with potentially a the higher standard of morality.
If I were to take everything you thought, said, did and put it on a DVD, come together in person with everyone in this group, you would never show your face again. Infact, I can confidently say there are things you have said and done that you wouldn't even share with your best friend. You tell me that mankind isn't depraved? What has gone on in the majority of people's minds would make hitler look like a choir boy.
"you make Heaven sound like heroin Heaven sound like heroin"
Can you please read what I had said again? Heaven is peanuts compared to the glory of God. I think the only side effect of his Glory is more unbelievable glory.

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dyluck
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Message 63 of 163 (585559)
10-08-2010 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Larni
10-08-2010 5:49 PM


Re: Life After Death
Yeah! someone who knows where this name comes from. SoM is still a classic!

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Larni
Member (Idle past 164 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 64 of 163 (585566)
10-08-2010 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by dyluck
10-08-2010 6:27 PM


Re: Life After Death
It's what got me into the emu scene.
Back when I was in uni I played that game to death on the snes; the music was sublime.
To quote use the peek button to view the db codes.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

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dyluck
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Message 65 of 163 (585567)
10-08-2010 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Larni
10-08-2010 6:47 PM


Re: Life After Death
Off rails, I know, I will play it once and a while to this day.
The three player at the same time was awesome. Gameplay and story was great! I would say, its better then most Zelda games.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 66 of 163 (585569)
10-08-2010 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by dyluck
10-08-2010 6:25 PM


Re: Life After Death
dyluck writes:
Hmm do you have to earn an ability to quote in the forum?
You can try this:
[qs=ringo]Blah blah blah....[/qs]
to get this:
ringo writes:
Blah blah blah....
or this:
[quote]Blah blah blah....[/quote]
to get this:
quote:
Blah blah blah....

dyluck writes:
You tell me that mankind isn't depraved? What has gone on in the majority of people's minds would make hitler look like a choir boy.
And Hitler would look like an amateur next to the God of the Bible.
dyluck writes:
Heaven is peanuts compared to the glory of God. I think the only side effect of his Glory is more unbelievable glory.
I think the smell from the crematoria lake of fire would bother some of us.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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onifre
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Posts: 4854
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Joined: 02-20-2008


Message 67 of 163 (585715)
10-09-2010 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by dyluck
10-08-2010 4:59 PM


Re: Life After Death
The first day being with Him would require a strenghening and unbelievable glory standing at his Footstool
Ok, so far I've gathered, from what you write, that God is a man who owns a footstool (probably not IKEA because God doesn't own shit products) and that he likes for us to hang out near the amazing footstool, I assume so we can check out the craftsmanship.
The next day, you go to bed, wake up and moreso ever increasing is His eternal glory that the power overwhelms you with Joy unbelieveable so much that you must be strenthend to be in his power.
Wait, we get tired in the afterlife to the point where our "bodies" required us to go to sleep?
Do we get assigned beds?
Who makes these beds? Certainly not the same company making God's footstool, so I'm guessing we get IKEA?
It is about God and always about Him.
I'm glad this is the case, I was starting to think I meant something.
- Oni
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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frako
Member (Idle past 306 days)
Posts: 2932
From: slovenija
Joined: 09-04-2010


Message 68 of 163 (585758)
10-09-2010 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Larni
10-08-2010 5:44 PM


That's what the special gun is for and the camera could only detect normal mouse souls (I think that's what the program said), not flying mouse souls.
shure man and i can sell you a prayer max 5000 for 6 payments of 69.99, cause you are on evc il drop the price to 6 X 50.00
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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Larni
Member (Idle past 164 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 69 of 163 (585863)
10-10-2010 7:27 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by frako
10-09-2010 3:59 PM


I'm not serious
You do know that the mouse experiment was not real and that I posted it as humour, don't you?

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frako
Member (Idle past 306 days)
Posts: 2932
From: slovenija
Joined: 09-04-2010


Message 70 of 163 (585875)
10-10-2010 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Larni
10-10-2010 7:27 AM


Re: I'm not serious
lol now i do, the sarcasem eluded me, as the first video i saw from the guy above i was going wtf he cant be serius

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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 285 days)
Posts: 16113
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 71 of 163 (585999)
10-10-2010 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by dyluck
10-08-2010 6:25 PM


Re: Life After Death
What has gone on in the majority of people's minds would make hitler look like a choir boy.
You believe that and you still get out of bed in the morning?
Personally I have never wanted to commit genocide. I would wager that this is true of most people.

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dyluck
Member (Idle past 4914 days)
Posts: 31
Joined: 10-06-2010


Message 72 of 163 (586310)
10-12-2010 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by ringo
10-08-2010 7:05 PM


Re: Life After Death
Thanks for the forum syntax help!
ringo writes:
And Hitler would look like an amateur next to the God of the Bible.
Does not the potter have the right to do with his pottery as he pleases?
Honestly, if there is a God, creator of the universe. How can anyone stand against Him?
I’m trying to give us an example that nobody is "innocent, just or righteous". Everyone knows their a sinner... nobody think how badly and nobody thinks of its utter consequences.
ringo writes:
I think the smell from the crematoria lake of fire would bother some of us.
It does say in the Bible that the smoke will rise up forever. Bone shattering scary to me.
I would bother me. At the end of the day, if there is a Holy and Just God, His Justice is perfect and he will execute his Justice. The fact that the only way his Justice could be satisfied is to propitiate himself by his Son's sacrifice. If someone tells you that forgiveness of God is possible, they are wrong. Forgiveness is made possible because God's sacrifice of his Son satisfied His own justice, his wrath due us. Therefore God is the Just and the Justifier. Jesus didn't become sin on a tree and satisfy God's justice by merely dieing a horrible death on the Cross. God crushed him under the full weight of his Wrath. Not only that, Jesus suffered incomprehensible wrath for us, but resurrected from it also. This proves that His sacrifice in our place was sufficient.
So, either God's justice is carried out on you and me, or it is carried out on the only one weighty enough to satisfy Divine justice. This is the reason that nobody says why Hell is forever... Gods justice will never be fully satisfied by anyone other then Christ.
Let me bring up a couple thoughts at general audience target:
1. Most evolutionists believe in something they don't fully understand beyond what they were taught in school. Which, is a second or third source at best. Everyone presupposes weather your an evolutionist or creationist; however, I can confidently say the proof is in the pudding. Look around you at the greatness of this world, universe and everything in it. This leads me to the second point.
2. Many atheists and even religious people are embracing the superstring theory. Not saying I believe it; however, weather you believe in the existence of just this universe, the existence of infinite universes on a parallel plain of existence or an Infinite God who ordains, creates and orchestrates an ID for His own good pleasure and glory. You still have to believe in something greater then you and even greater then this universe.
3. Bible says God is the only thing that creates out of nothing. so either you believe that matter itself is indeed infinite, its power is infinite to create such a wonderful place, or there is an infinite creator. Either way, infinity exists and we will have to submit to it.

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dyluck
Member (Idle past 4914 days)
Posts: 31
Joined: 10-06-2010


Message 73 of 163 (586313)
10-12-2010 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Dr Adequate
10-10-2010 7:09 PM


Re: Life After Death
Dr Adequate writes:
You believe that and you still get out of bed in the morning?
You believe that and you still get out of bed in the morning?
Personally I have never wanted to commit genocide. I would wager that this is true of most people.
Im wonderiung if you actually have evaluated the things you have thought, done and said.
Nobody was saying you contemplate genocide. I believe that God restrains us and his mercy sustains us; however, what goes on behind closed doors or in your mind. I think a big difference between here and Hell itself is the lack of the restraint of God where everyone will be left to the deepest darkest hatreds and desires.
Here's a question. Have you ever hated anyone? Jesus says you have already comitted murder in your mind. How about looked at another person with lust? Jesus says you have already commited adultry with that person in your mind.
Have you ever lied? Im sure you have, that makes you a liar
Have you ever stole anythinhg? I am sure you have, weather it be a pen or a song on the internet, That makes you a theif.
I'm pretty sure we can nail down every one of the 10 commandments themselves..
Now, you believe that a criminal should have justice right? What about you? We are all criminals we are all guilty of every command laid out in, at least, the 10 commandments.
Now let me ask you this. What part of God's law don't you like? Is it the one about being a thief? Is it the one about not murdering?

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dyluck
Member (Idle past 4914 days)
Posts: 31
Joined: 10-06-2010


Message 74 of 163 (586314)
10-12-2010 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by onifre
10-09-2010 12:43 PM


Re: Life After Death
onifre writes:
Ok, so far I've gathered, from what you write, that God is a man who owns a footstool (probably not IKEA because God doesn't own shit products) and that he likes for us to hang out near the amazing footstool, I assume so we can check out the craftsmanship.
Your age eludes me by this statment.
Obviously I was drawing a picture of the greatness of God.
onifre writes:
Wait, we get tired in the afterlife to the point where our "bodies" required us to go to sleep?
Do we get assigned beds?
Who makes these beds? Certainly not the same company making God's footstool, so I'm guessing we get IKEA?
Another age defining stament. Sorry, honestly it is.
Assuming you didn't read the part that probably said "say there was day an night". Again, trying to illustrate a picture.
onifre writes:
I'm glad this is the case, I was starting to think I meant something.
Well, what do you think you are? Honestly, I want to know. Are you the God of your own world? Do you submit to some God or are you goign through life, chancing what happens after you die and hope that it all turns out?

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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 285 days)
Posts: 16113
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 75 of 163 (586318)
10-12-2010 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by dyluck
10-12-2010 1:50 PM


Re: Life After Death
Im wonderiung if you actually have evaluated the things you have thought, done and said.
Nobody was saying you contemplate genocide. I believe that God restrains us and his mercy sustains us; however, what goes on behind closed doors or in your mind. I think a big difference between here and Hell itself is the lack of the restraint of God where everyone will be left to the deepest darkest hatreds and desires.
Here's a question. Have you ever hated anyone? Jesus says you have already comitted murder in your mind. How about looked at another person with lust? Jesus says you have already commited adultry with that person in your mind.
Have you ever lied? Im sure you have, that makes you a liar
Have you ever stole anythinhg? I am sure you have, weather it be a pen or a song on the internet, That makes you a theif.
Yes, I have.
And what you wrote was, and I quote:
What has gone on in the majority of people's minds would make hitler look like a choir boy.
That's not actually true, is it? You go on to ask me if I've ever hated anyone or whether I've looked on anyone with lust. Yes, I have, good guess.
What I have not done is stuff that would make Hitler look like a choirboy, not even in the privacy of my own brain.
I understand that preaching the Gospel requires you to point out that we are in a fallen state and require forgiveness. But when you go further than this and claim that the average man is more evil than Hitler, then you're just shooting yourself in the foot. People are not generally that evil.
Now let me ask you this. What part of God's law don't you like? Is it the one about being a thief? Is it the one about not murdering?
No, I'm cool with that.
What I objected to is your claim that most people are more evil than Hitler. They're really not.

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