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Journal Watch: How Could They Print/Not Print That?

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10-14-2010 12:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by Omnivorous
10-14-2010 11:31 AM

Re: Amino acids in Murchison Meterorite
Omnivorous writes:
Perhaps some authentic peer review would have raised that objection prior to publication.
As I read it, the text that you quoted does not assert that the amino acids are of biological origin. It only asserts that some of them are useful for biology.
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10-14-2010 3:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 14 by Omnivorous
10-14-2010 2:29 PM

Re: Amino acids in Murchison Meterorite
Omnivorous writes:
The quote seems clear to me.
Okay. But I am not seeing anything wrong with that.
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As stated, it does not exclude that we also see amino acids of non-biological origin.
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I am not arguing for the Axe paper. I am just questioning why that particular assertion about amino acids is seen as a problem.
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10-14-2010 9:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 16 by Omnivorous
10-14-2010 9:06 PM

Re: Amino acids in Murchison Meterorite
Omnivorous writes:
In the full quote I first posted, Axe posits an imaginary world with abiotic amino acids; then he claims that our world, in contrast, is without abiotic amino acids.
I am not seeing in your quote, where he uses "without" with respect to amino acids. I clicked your link and it doesn't take me anywhere, though I assume you were probably referring to Message 10.
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In any case, I think we are getting sidetracked. Surely the main problem with his paper is in his dubious arguments for irreducible complexity in the proteins, rather than in what he says about the origin of amino acids.
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