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Buzsaw

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Message 126 of 153 (587140)
10-17-2010 8:51 AM

Reply to: Message 115 by Dawn Bertot
10-16-2010 11:27 PM

The Biblical Designer Did The Whole Enchilada

Dawn Bertot writes:

Percy writes:

.......Is a crystalline structure evidence of design?.......

No a crystalline is the result or design of an already existing order in the form of its substructure, molecules, etc

Dawn, where you're in trouble here is that you're obfuscating/confusing the role the Biblical designer. All existing order in the entire universe has been designed by Jehovah, including all forces and observed phenomena, including the formation of crystals.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 131 of 153 (587161)
10-17-2010 10:51 AM

Reply to: Message 130 by hooah212002
10-17-2010 10:18 AM

Re: The Biblical Designer Did The Whole Enchilada

hooah writes:

Buzsaw writes:

Dawn, where you're in trouble here is that you're obfuscating/confusing the role the Biblical designer.

....but but but DB isn't advocating for a biblical designer, Buz. DB is an IDist...... They claim there is a difference.

Ah, thanks, Hooah. I forgot about that. No wonder Percy's point pevailed over DB, the deist. The unique Biblical model remains the only logical and prevalent alternative for the enormity of design observed.

Edited by Buzsaw, : fix quotes

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 134 of 153 (587186)
10-17-2010 1:53 PM

Reply to: Message 132 by hooah212002
10-17-2010 11:23 AM

Re: The Biblical Designer Did The Whole Enchilada

hooah writes:

No, Buz. IDist, not deist. BIG difference. ID pays lip service alone to claiming themselves separate from religionists. They claim the designer is not "god", or that they don't know who or what the designer is (even though we know full well they are creationists in disguise).

Oh, so according to the Online Dictionary we have some deists on this board who are disquising themselves as pseudo-ID creationists. Interesting.

Online Dictionary; #1 Noun definition; deist:

deist - a person who believes that God created the universe and then abandoned it
freethinker

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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