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Buzsaw Inactive Member
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Theodoric writes: Just because you have stated this in the past before does not make it correct. Cite a source, if you can't then quit attributing it to Jefferson. It doesn't even sound like Jefferson.If you can find a source I will retract my remarks. I've checked out a number of press related quotes from Jefferson and have concluded that either I erred on who said it or my source was not reliable. I retract my claim and apologize for not sourcing my claim before airing it. Jefferson, however, was very critical of the mainstream press of his time and vowed not to write anything in the newspapers.
"Our printers raven on the agonies of their victims, as wolves do on the blood of the lamb." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1811. ME 13:59
"From forty years' experience of the wretched guess-work of the newspapers of what is not done in open daylight, and of their falsehood even as to that, I rarely think them worth reading, and almost never worth notice." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1816. ME 14:430 "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day." --Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807. ME 11:224
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8551 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
- Bertrand Russell
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
One last point.
You said:
Buz writes: Of course the press today entails all media mediums. Oh, so true, and relative to America's decline, excalating since the days of big syndicated news and the vanishing of the local small hometown press. Not to mention the lamestream media, i.e. mainsteam electronic media, as Rush Limbaugh describes it. Of course in Jefferson's day there was no such thing as big syndicated news but rather only local, small, hometown press. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Seems to me that Russell was ripping of Yeats.
WB Yeats writes: The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity. ---The Second Coming TTFN, WK
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8551 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
That may be so. I couldn't say.
Maybe great minds do think alike and each was making their own observation? Who knows. My Yeats is a bit Thank you, WK.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
Does anyone recognize this? It is from Pink Floyd's 'Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.' Does it come from somewhere else? Here is a link to the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo&feature=related Aye an’ a bit of Mackeral settler rack and ruinran it doon by the haim, ‘ma place well I slapped me and I slapped it doon in the side and I cried, cried, cried. The fear a fallen down taken never back the raizeand then Craig Marion, get out wi’ ye Claymore out mi pocket a’ ran doon, doon the middin stain picking the fiery horde that was fallen around ma feet. Never he cried, never shall it ye get me aliveye rotten hound of the burnie crew. Well I snatched fer the blade O my Claymore cut and thrust and I fell doon before him round his feet. Aye! A roar he criedfrae the bottom of his heart that I would nay fall but as dead, dead as ‘a can be by his feet; de ya ken? and the wind cried back.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Your lyrics seem pretty close to what I understand them to be. One issue I have is that I do not believe it is "and then Craig Marion", I believe it is "And then cried Mary".
The heavy Scots accent is tough to understand. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
The heavy Scots accent is tough to understand. I thought it was Gaelic until I came across this translation. After reading it I thought that it must belong to some aged text but it wouldnt really surprise me if it was original Waters. I was wondering about the actual sounds of words and how they increase the impact of a statement. The way that the vocalist says "A roar he cried frae the bottom of his heart" has stuck with me for 30 yrs.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
Another great one from Waters would be
"Hear the lark and harken to the barking of the dog fox...gone to ground."
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 761 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Dammit, Dogmafood! I want one of those signs!
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
You can probably order one from the Canadian Ministry for Public Safety.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Line Dancing: What happens when cousins breed.
If we were meant to be vegetarians, then why did God make animals out of food? Friends do not let friends vote Republican. I still miss my ex, but my aim is improving. |
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
I always thought it was Hawking who said;
"Eternity is a long time, especially near the end." but apparently it was Woody Allen.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 375 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4255 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
"My most recent faith struggle is not one of intellect. I don't really do that anymore. Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who do believe in God and they can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter, and honestly I don't care."-- Donald Miller
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