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Dr Adequate
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Message 5 of 104 (589266)
11-01-2010 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stephen Push
11-01-2010 5:47 AM


But accepting the theory of evolution negates the original sin argument. How could natural evil be caused by original sin if animal pain and suffering predated the emergence of humans by hundreds of millions of years?
*puts on theologian hat *
Since God is omniscient and lives in eternity outside time, obviously he'd know what was going to happen and could, so to speak, get his retaliation in first, and punish all those cute little monotremes and pterodactyls for something that we were going to do ...
Mysterious ways, eh?
How about we try Descartes' solution? Animals don't have souls, so they don't actually suffer any more than a machine does. That would fix it. Yes, it's absurd, but this is theology.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 14 of 104 (589338)
11-01-2010 7:13 PM
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11-01-2010 11:47 AM


What is the point of making monotremes and pterodactyls suffer for Adam's sin?
The exact same point as punishing weasels and narwhals for it.
Don't look at me, I didn't make this stuff up. But any Christian who thinks (as apparently they do) that it's OK to punish a narwhal for the failings of humanity need hardly cavil at the pterodactyls suffering a similar fate.
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Message 15 of 104 (589339)
11-01-2010 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by nwr
11-01-2010 2:53 PM


Re: Human Copouts
The correct solution for religion, is that they should paint an honest picture of the world.
In what sense would that be religion?
Your suggestion reminds me somewhat of the old joke about the man who tried to teach his mule to live without food.
Unfortunately, just as he'd achieved complete success the darn thing died on him.
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Message 34 of 104 (589418)
11-02-2010 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Jon
11-02-2010 11:04 AM


Re: A Matter of Standards...
Obviously, any entity that is forced to do good whenever the opportunity arises is far from being 'omnipotent', being subjugated, as it were, to their own 'benevolence'.
But benevolence means (literally) the wish to do what is good, not a compulsion to do so.
Obviously the fact that God does what he wishes to do would not be a limitation on his omnipotence as such.

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