How to make sand.

Sure. Post a message in the Proposed New Topic forum. The Original Post (commonly called OPies around here) should be fairly short and outline the basic topic to be discussed. It should hopefully limit and direct the discussion down one particular line of inquiry.In it an initial position or question should be asked, but support for that position can be added as the discussion progresses.

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

done. thanks.

Anyone want to post the Creationist model for making sand?

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

^bump^

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

And God said: "Let there be sand". And there was sand.

Been a little over three years now and still not one Creationist model for making sand.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I had a YEC once argue at length that both lunar dust and the wadis of the Sahara desert were formed through thousands of years of EM radiation. Does that count?Lurker

Well, temperature wearing is one of the methods in the conventional model and even discussed in this thread. Now if that idiot had taken the next step and explained how IR radiation (which is what he mentioned before switching to EM) worked, it could be tested.And guess what?Temperature changed flaking can happen, but it does not produce sand.To get sand you need more than just weathering, you need the active transport and tumbling that then reduces the flakes to sand grains.But the directionality is always the same, higher objects get weathered and then transported to lower locations.So the conventional model still rules, first you have to uplift stuff before you can wear it down.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Yeah, I tried to point this out to no avail. My favorite part was when it was argued that the Sahara couldn't have been formed by breaking down rocks because there were no really big rocks there.Lurker

Perhaps whatever/whoever made the planet made the first sand along with the soil. Otherwise one might assume that in the forming of the planet there was nothing but rock. Then it gets even more testy. Perhaps the same thing that made rocks made sand. after all rocks, perse are all sizes, from great all the way down to sand. Otherwise one must begin with solid rock tectonic plates breaking down to large rocks, breaking down to smaller graduations of rock sizes.This leads to questions about the properties of the first soil and variables all the way down from sand to soil/dirt. No?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

That is not a model Buz, just word salad. How did it do that Buz, what is the model?As usual, no model is presented other than the current one.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

What is impossible about this process?Why do you think that "whatever/whoever made the planet made the first sand along with the soil" is supported by the supposed impossiblility of the above process?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

I'll clarify the intention of my statement: Whatever, meaning whatever process, whether the current model or another. Whoever, implying an intelligent designer.Assuming the current model, rocks are essentially all sizes from massive to boulders, to stones to pebbles to various sized gravel to sand, relative to size. Humans assign terms determinate on rock size. Magnify a grain of sand enough and it appears to be a boulder.Assuming the current model, over time, all sizes less than massive would be a fragment of a larger rock as I assume the current model to be. No? If not, at what point in time would there have been no sand, no gravel, no stones no etc on up and at what point in time would the smallest sized stone have been, say, a boulder?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Well, you failed to clarify the intent of your statement.the current model is outlined in the Original Post, but I'll repeat it for you.

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The current model for making sand is pretty simple. Start with a mountain, a big sucker of a rock. Then the daily transition between warm day time and colder night time, and between hotter summer and colder winter will cause expansion and contraction of the rock, gradually over long periods of time opening small cracks.

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Again over time, water will fill the cracks and when it freezes enlarge the cracks, eventually breaking off pieces.

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Again, over time the pieces are transported from higher elevations to lower ones by wind, water and gravity. During transportation they are broken up further, becoming smaller and smaller pieces.

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Nothing is needed other than processes we can see at work today and lots of time.

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Now, what is YOUR model for making sand?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.