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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Oh-kee doh-kee
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Mammuthus, from http://EvC Forum: The Nature of Mutations II
quote: SLPx seems unable to supress the expression of his "crankyness gene" for any extended period of time. Thus, he seems to be continuesly residing is the gray zone between acceptable and unacceptable behaviour. What to do? Right now, I once again ask SLPx to try to be nice. Adminnemooseus ps: I believe that Peter Borger is one of about 3 people that Admin put on posting permission suspension, for an indefinite period. This is close to, but not the same as being banned. Peter has "read only" access to this site. I think (but may be wrong) that a full banning could go so far as to exclude a person from any access to the site.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
From http://EvC Forum: Retire Free For All Forum? -->EvC Forum: Retire Free For All Forum?
quote: Admin and I are spread pretty thin here. I think I need to reactivate my efforts to bring in some new moderators, to help out. I have been in contact with a number of members in the past - You know who you are. If you are interested in giving being a moderator a shot, please send me an e-mail at mnmoose@lakenet.com. I think we also need to have more "self moderation" happening around here. It would be ugly, if the various moderators were to interject messages as often as the situations may actually call for it. Every third message or so would be a topic drift or behaviour warning message. People (per "self moderation"), let's pay more attention to the topic titles, the topic contents, the forum areas, and what is the intended area of discussion/debate in the various topics. Cheers,Adminnemooseus [This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 07-15-2003]
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: In the old nutshell, the above states my position pretty well. An extreme example of a bad signal to noise ratio (and I say this not having read most of the string), is the "Evolution of Light" topic. Probably, both Admin and I have written that one off as being a total wasteland, not worthy of even bothering to look at. Has a really nice message been buried in there somewhere? If so, my guess is that most will never see it. Very busy lately, and same for the immediate future. Gotta go,Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Admin posted this at the "Retire Free for All?" topic a while back, and I long intended to get a copy to this topic. I may even give it a "Posting of the Month" nomination.
quote: I also encourage all, to read this topic from the start. The only true way we can have successful moderation at , is if the various members do "self-moderation". Ask yourself, "Is this a good message to be posted at this time, in this topic?". Cheers,Adminnemooseus |
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
The previous 2 messages, and particularly NosyNed's, are responses to my "Universal Perfection" topic closing message.
There, DNAunion was the focal point, although not the only culpret, of the disruption of the topic. It seems that DNAunion has been doing much less objectionable methodology since that topic closure. I thank him. Of course, Brad McFall is a whole nother issue. Brad has been granted special licence to post as he does, despite his communications dificulties. I think all have ongoing hopes that Brad can have some success in refining his messages into something more concise and coherent. Every now and then it does (or almost does) happen. Perhaps we need to limit Brad to a certain number of words per message, to try to guide him into better writting. Cheers,Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
messenjaH - Might I ask where you are getting your information, that Iron Man was suspended?
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Up to reading your message about Iron Man's suspension, I was unaware of it.
Upon further investigation, I discovered that: 1) Iron Man was indeed suspended. 2) His and your IP numbers were exactly the same. and 3) The only public record of the suspension was your message. So, apparently you had some sort of personal contact with Iron Man. Just for fun, I thought I'd fish to see what your story on this was. Cheers,Adminnemooseus [This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 11-09-2003]
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
There was a considerable amount of moderation policy debate happening in another topic, until I (hopefully) ended it with the following.
quote: Crashfrog had one in progress, as I was posting the above. He went back, and deleted that content - I thank him. I find the discussion of moderation procedures to be interesting, and I welcome such things. But it needs to be confined to this topic, where 1)It won't be disruptive to the other topics, and 2) It can be found for future reference. So, gripe away, but do it in this topic (a link back to source of the grievance would be nice). Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
and will serve the sentence for all you.
Tentitively 7 days from the time of offense. Might certain parties like to edit in some apologies somewhere? Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: Darwin's Terrier's suspension has been lifted, after being in effect for 4 days. I don't think such situations call for warnings before suspensions. Darwin's Terrier should have known better. Had the offending message been posted by a new member, he probably would have been branded a troll, and also been suspended. Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
WJ said:
quote: I have previously said twice (original and quote):
quote: Management VERY rarely edits messages for content. The original poster(s) is/are certainly welcome to do such. Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: Links to both the offending message and to the discussion in this topic is included in Message 24, of the "Suspensions and Bannings" topic. Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
I find that it has become far too common, for members to launch-off on a "humorous" off-topic, and then for others to follow up. If you must do such, please do it in the "Humor" topic.
Had Darwin's Terrier brought a quote to the "Humor" topic, and then launched his joke, I probably would not have had any great problem with it. Again, Darwin's Terrier should have the sense to have known better (not to mention the others who followed up). Moderator warnings tend to get lost in the shuffle. The only sure way to get the needed attention is either by a suspension or by a topic closure. In this case, a topic closure would have been more a punishment to the non-guilty topic starter. Sometimes a hard whack is needed to bring attention to a problem. This time, it was Darwin's Terrier that took the whack. A 2 day suspension would probably have been appropriate, but that would have largely been over the weekend, when things are slower anyway. I announced a possible 7 day suspension to try to really stir things up, knowing that it probably was going to be less. I was really surprised that no one protested the harshness of the 7 day sentence. Actually, I surprised there wasn't more protest over the suspension even happening. Cheers, Adminnemooseus
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
OK, I mistook the topic in question, as being an attempt at serious discussion. I wasn't keen on it being an attack on Christianity in the first place. Then (even to my imperceptive abilities) it turned into a "humor" string.
The topic can be reopened. But, is there really a calling for such a topic, in the scope of ? (not a rhetorical question) As I see it, one dubious idiological topic does not justify another dubious idiological topic. Adminnemooseus
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