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Author Topic:   Golden Age of biblical principles?
ringo
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Message 60 of 144 (590363)
11-07-2010 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Buzsaw
11-07-2010 7:23 PM


Re: It seems such a nutty topic for a thread
Buzsaw writes:
Thus, the US of A has long been regarded worldwide as the place to migrate to and the place where citizens of despotic nations risked their lives for escaping into.
The US of A has also long been regarded as a place to escape from, by the United Empire Loyalists (who wanted to render unto Caesar what was Caesar's), by slaves and by resistors against unjust wars.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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ringo
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Message 101 of 144 (590661)
11-09-2010 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
11-05-2010 10:26 AM


Re: Decline Of The Golden Age
Buzsaw writes:
In the early 1960s some things began to escalate the decline, one being the Hippie generation and another being the end of real value money which could be exchanged for silver at the local bank. This was global.
The communication problem seems to be because what you call a "decline", a lot of other people call an improvement. The Civil Rights movement, for example, was a big part of that era and many of us wouldn't consider segregation to be a Biblical principle (at least, not one worth following).
The Bible itself suggests that history will be a series of ups and downs, not a trend in one direction or the other:
quote:
Ecc 1:9-10 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
(It's also interesting that you mention "real value money" as if it was a Biblical principle.)

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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ringo
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Message 118 of 144 (590792)
11-09-2010 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Buzsaw
11-09-2010 8:22 PM


Re: Decline Of The Golden Age
Buzsaw writes:
The problem with the Civil Rights movement was it went to far towards the decline of freedom.
As I said, "too far" is your perception. Others see the balancing of rights as "not far enough yet".
Remember that a lot of the people behind the Civil Rights movement were Christians - for example, a fellow named Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. It's interesting that Christians like to take credit for the initiative to abolish slavery, yet they balk at going one step further by giving the freed slaves equal rights. Calling that a "decline" is downright perverse.
Ecclesiastes disagrees with you. There's nothing new under the sun. There were never any good old days.

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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ringo
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Message 122 of 144 (590814)
11-09-2010 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Buzsaw
11-09-2010 8:59 PM


Re: Decline Of The Golden Age
Buzsaw writes:
No, Ecclesiates does not disagree with me. It's a strawman.
A strawman would be a misrepresentation of your position. If you think I've done that, point out where instead of slinging around words that you don't understand.
Similarly, if you think I've quote-mined Ecclesiastes, go ahead and point out where.
quote:
Ecc 1:9-10 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
Your misunderstanding of prophecy doesn't change what it says.
And why don't you respond to the point of my post? How can you call improved equality a "decline"? How do you account for good Christians like Dr. King participating in what you call a "decline"?

"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

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