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Author Topic:   Can I disprove Macro-Evolution
Dawn Bertot
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Message 185 of 238 (591148)
11-12-2010 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by ICANT
11-11-2010 2:51 PM


Re: DNA
Not one verifiable instance of 'Macro-Evolution' has not been shown to have occured.
In fact no good argumentation has been presented to support such a position.
Circumstantial evidence along with assertions and bull headed conclusions has been presented in this thread as evidence of verifiable instances of 'Macro-Evolution' having occured.
The problem is none of those are verifiable instances of
'Macro-Evolution'.
God Bless,
I have read the entire thread up to 184, excellent display of logic, ICANT, you can see them squirming. Outstanding. I know we have our disagreements on Baptism, but you are an outstanding debater.
Dawn Bertot
Edited by Dawn Bertot, : No reason given.

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Dawn Bertot
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Posts: 3571
Joined: 11-23-2007


Message 191 of 238 (591165)
11-12-2010 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 2:26 AM


Re: DNA
You guys should really learn the difference between things you can see and things that you can imagine.
While I could argue the silliness of your above point very easily,
my intention here was not t enter the discussion, I think ICANT is doing a wonderful job. I was simply pointing out that he displays a level of knowledge and the logical ability to employ it to the point that it is very impressive
I think I read in the rules or preface somewhere on this site that some things get published. IMV, this should be one of them
ICANT is both an enigma and paradox at times. Sometimes he doesnt seem to understand the simplest points, at others times he displays an understanding that is simply impressive.
His participation here is one of those excellent displays of knowledge
I think it is worthy of publication.
Dawn Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days)
Posts: 3571
Joined: 11-23-2007


Message 194 of 238 (591174)
11-12-2010 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 9:30 AM


Re: DNA
If, on another thread, you would like to argue that you shouldn't learn the difference between things you can see and things that you can imagine, then I for one could use the laugh.
I can well believe that such an argument would come very easily to you.
Ive already demonstrated to many times now, it is actually you that does not understand the difference between the two, as your inability to reason correctly, usually demonstrates. Its why why when you and I are discussing points, you choose to bow out and have nothing really to offer but jibes and insults
You aggravation is being displayed now because ICANT has taken you to task on the subject and you have no way to demonstrate what you claim happened, Macro Evo
Feel free to clown around, I would however, suggest that you spend your time meeting his demand, which you have to this point NOT demonstrated
All you need is the evidence, that should be simple enough
Dawn Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
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Posts: 3571
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Message 195 of 238 (591175)
11-12-2010 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 9:30 AM


Re: DNA
Let me guess. He "doesn't understand the simplest points" when he's disagreeing with one of your religious dogmas, and his understanding is "simply impressive" when he's concurring with your doctrine. Am I close?
It really bothers you when someone disagrees with A position, even when you are not being addressed directly, doesnt it?
Beign wrong on any position is really not an option for you is it?
Perhaps some anger management classes or courses would be appropriate for such tantrums
Just a suggestion however
Better let you get back to your task, have fun
Dawn Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
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Posts: 3571
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Message 205 of 238 (591206)
11-12-2010 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by frako
11-12-2010 10:25 AM


Re: DNA
It is hard to argue whit someone that uses flawed logic as he stated "i have no problem whit those mice being diferent species but they are still mice" As i recall macro evolution is above the species level so if they are different species than macro happened. The fact that they are still mouse like has nothing to do whit it.
It has everything to do with it. The point is that those mice, regardless of thier appearance are just still mice.
They dont breed and cannot breed with anything else to be anything else, regardless of the changes they maike themselves within the species
One thing becoming another from a particular species is the assumption of Macro-evolutioin and is what needs to be demonstrated, in the "above the species" application
Dawn Bertot
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Dawn Bertot
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Message 206 of 238 (591207)
11-12-2010 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by crashfrog
11-12-2010 11:19 AM


Re: Summary?????
Can you briefly summarize what you believe are his best points?
When we reach that point I will be happy to do so
Dawn Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 207 of 238 (591210)
11-12-2010 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 12:10 PM


Re: DNA
That was incoherent, but I believe you intended to be insulting.
You're not very good at that, either, are you?
I wonder what you are good at? I suppose with the right armature a taxidermist might make you into a passable hatstand.
Fortunately Ive been discussing issues like these much longer than yourself . Part of that experience is learning when a person actually has answers to questions and can formulate rational responses, neither of which, seem to be a part of you abilities or your agendas
When you get backed against the wall, you start to cry fowl, in the hopes people will get distracted by the real fact, that you are not acting responsible and cannot act or respond in any real fashion
DA, your wasting valuable time that should be invested in rebutals that make sense
Remember DA, your audience is watching your behavior
I assume you are actually older than say, 20 years of age, so you should have learned this simple mature point by now. Perhaps I am wrong and you are still a teenage testosterone fueled boy. Are you still just a boy DA?
Dawn Bertot
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Dawn Bertot
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Posts: 3571
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Message 215 of 238 (591221)
11-12-2010 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Theodoric
11-12-2010 1:23 PM


Re: Enough is enough
There is no excuse or reason for this being posted. I hope the admins deal with this swiftly and severely.
Go back my simple friend and take a close look at where these snipets started. I was simply complimenting ICANT on his contribution and began to be attacked both in my estimations of him and his talents
If you want to accuse someone, start with the initator of the insults. Atleast try and be objective in your complaints
Dawn Bertot
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Dawn Bertot
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Joined: 11-23-2007


Message 216 of 238 (591222)
11-12-2010 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Coyote
11-12-2010 1:15 PM


Re: "Still mice"
So what do you think? Are they all still mice?
Where are the skeleton (remains) bodies, of all these wonderful examples you provide?
Is there a primate type (monkey if you will) that humans can procreate with, to produce something not human and not monkey? Simply put can they precreate?
Dawn Bertot
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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days)
Posts: 3571
Joined: 11-23-2007


Message 218 of 238 (591227)
11-12-2010 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 1:46 PM


Re: "Still mice"
While you're busy looking for a baboon with low standards, we'll be here chatting about evolution.
One would wonder why if there is common ancestry and DNA is so similar, why such has not been attempted even in a labratory context. My bet is that they know it would not work
So the simple answer is, No and you dont have a response
Here is a simpler one for you, perhaps you can take a stab at it. Where are the mass graves of the imaginary hominid creatures? Since there were literally thousands upon thousands, possibilby millions
Shouldnt we have come across some mass graves of such creatures, possibly one frozen in the ice, or something of that nature.
Yet, all we are ever treated to are a few isolated examples and skull fragments.
You see, its this type of lack of evidence that makes Macro-evolution, nothing more than theory, unsubstantiated by real evidence
Chatting about evolution, seems to be all you can do
Dawn Bertot
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Dawn Bertot
Member (Idle past 102 days)
Posts: 3571
Joined: 11-23-2007


Message 219 of 238 (591230)
11-12-2010 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Dr Adequate
11-12-2010 1:46 PM


Re: "Still mice"
While you're busy looking for a baboon with low standards
I will admit that was funny though. I realized before I questioned that point I was opening myself up for that response
Fortunately, God and nature has blessed me with a brain, appearance and frame that does not require such actions
Im sure you dont share such qualites that would not allow you to take such desprate actions
That was funny BTW
Dawn Bertot

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