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Author Topic:   Can I disprove Macro-Evolution
frako
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Message 179 of 238 (591128)
11-11-2010 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by ICANT
11-11-2010 6:04 PM


Re: Micro Macro
I have no problem with your non breeding mice being a different species of mice.
But they are still mice.
I don't have a problem with there being many different species of land creatures.
I don't have a problem with there being many different species of water creatures.
I don't have a problem with there being many different species of flying creatures.
I don't have a problem with there being many different species of mankind.
I do have a problem when I am told anyone of those came from one of the others.
The problem arises because of the lack of evidence that everything has evolved from one living life form that began to exist all by itself.
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So you do not have a problem whit those mice becoming a different species of mice but you do have a problem whit all species comming from a single ancestor.
So if those mice would evolve further and grow hopping legs, a rabbit like tail and start eating bark would you still call them mice or something else.
if you look at the evidence so far you can see species changing their feeding habits, you have much evidence of species changing the lenght of their legs (lots of different dog breeds have diferent bone ratios in legs and ofcorse diferent lengts alltogether), and some humans get bourne whit a tail so it is logical to asume it is possible for some animal to be borne whitout one. So given the evidence it is possible that a mouse like the one above could evolve would you still call it a mouse or something else like a hoopelldoo.
And because it is no longer a mouse but a hoppelldoo do could you apply the same exsample to a pre human/ape like creature evolving in to a human.
Or is there something i have missed.

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frako
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Message 187 of 238 (591151)
11-12-2010 4:06 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by Dawn Bertot
11-12-2010 2:12 AM


Re: DNA
I have read the entire thread up to 184, excellent display of logic, ICANT, you can see them squirming. Outstanding. I know we have our disagreements on Baptism, but you are an outstanding debater.
Yea the 2 mice are a different species but they are still mice.
They are no longer House mice, they look diferent, act different, their gens are diferent they are now called Xxx yyyy, and no ammount of change will ever make them cese to be mice. Ift hey grow horns they will be mice whit horns, if they grow a rabbits tail they will be mice whit horns and rabbids tails, if they start eating bark, they will be horned mice whit rabbits tails that eat bark, If they evolve shorter mouths and a diferent digestive syistem because they are eating bark, they will be horned mice whit rabbit tails that eat bark have different jaws and different digestive syistems, If they evolve ........
No amount of change would convince him that they are no longer mice
AN exelent display of logic that disproves macro evolution no matter what happens just denie that macro has ever happened.

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frako
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Message 196 of 238 (591176)
11-12-2010 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 194 by Dawn Bertot
11-12-2010 9:56 AM


Re: DNA
Feel free to clown around, I would however, suggest that you spend your time meeting his demand, which you have to this point NOT demonstrated
I demonstrated macro evoution that happened in recorded history and he said well those mice are different species of mice but still mice, and i asked him 5 times how much change would a mouse need to not be a mouse anymore i got no anwser jet when he provides one i can find a different example.
It is hard to argue whit someone that uses flawed logic as he stated "i have no problem whit those mice being diferent species but they are still mice" As i recall macro evolution is above the species level so if they are different species than macro happened. The fact that they are still mouse like has nothing to do whit it. But if he can provide me whit the amount of change he would consider macro evolution then i will find some other example. Though whitout knowlage what he wants i cannot do that.

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frako
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Message 201 of 238 (591185)
11-12-2010 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Coyote
11-12-2010 10:42 AM


Re: DNA
i know i would poste the latin name of that new mouse and the house mouse but he would still say they are still mice

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frako
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Message 236 of 238 (591264)
11-12-2010 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by ICANT
11-12-2010 4:44 PM


Re: 'Macro-Evolution'
Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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