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jar
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Message 10 of 56 (592340)
11-19-2010 5:13 PM


other than uniformitarianism, what is there?
Basically, uniformitarianism only says that the processes we see happening today happened in the past. The observations for that position are the evidence left behind from past events when compared to evidence left by contemporary events.
It says that if we find an ancient site that shows the same evidence we see in a contemporary site, then it's likely that the processes were the same.
BUT WAIT ... there is more ...
there are some things that do stand out, for example uranium halos. For uranium halos to exist then the processes that created it must have continued for at least the time needed to create that one example.
BUT WAIT ... there is more ...
there is also supposition, things placed in some order. If one item is found under some other item there has to be some mechanism that explains jess how that came to be.
I still await the explanations other than Uniformitarianism.

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Message 15 of 56 (592356)
11-19-2010 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Iblis
11-19-2010 8:35 PM


Re: Uniform Results
Never got a response there either.
Or in the Grand Canyon thread...
or Oetzi...
or the Salt thread...
or the How to make sand thread...
or ...
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Message 17 of 56 (592508)
11-20-2010 2:53 PM
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11-20-2010 2:38 PM


Re: The Argument Could be Made
If we crammed all the stars known into that 6KLY sphere, would there be night?
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Message 44 of 56 (593144)
11-24-2010 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by alschwin
11-24-2010 2:59 PM


the silly Stratification experiments
I'm going to try to keep this as close to on topic as is possible.
The reason that experiments such as those included in your examples are at best, considered worth a small chuckle or two, is that they simply do not reflect what is seen in the real world. They are cute little elementary school level demonstrations of how one process works.
But the real world is far more complex.
For example, if we look at the Green River varves what we see is the same process getting repeated for millions of cycles. Yes, the experiments you point to might explain one of the cycles, but what about the other three million nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred ninety nine cycles?
The little experiments you point to don't answer the questions like how to make sand, how to make salt beds, how to build the Grand Canyon (not how to carve it away but how to build the structure in the first place).
Uniformitarianism rules because no one has EVER been able to present a model that explains what is seen better.

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