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Topic: Articulating In The Debates; The Proper And The Improper.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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hooah212002 writes: Why should I censor myself for some kid on the internet?
A more apt question would be, "Why not?" I presume that there are occasions when you do "censor yourself". Or do you use the same language in a job interview? Do you want to come across as an intelligent, science-minded grownup or not?
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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hooah212002 writes: To be quite frank, I couldn't care less how I come across.
Then you're liable to get your wish.
hooah212002 writes: I don't quite see the correlation between the internet and real life.
Then a science site is an odd place to visit. You could probably find an easier place to hide from prospective employers.
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 50 of 192 (591444)
11-13-2010 11:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
11-13-2010 10:13 PM
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Re: Profanity And Racism
Buzsaw writes: crashfrog writes: Nobody's offended by Hooah's use of the word "fuck" in all its glorious conjugations.
Perhaps it offends nobody among your circle of friends and associates who consider it glorious in it's conjugations.
In a (probably apocryphal) story from World War Two, a dejected soldier was sitting beside a broken-down jeep. When asked, "What's the problem, soldier?" he replied, "Fuckin' fucker's fucked." A one-word language. I definitely consider its conjugations glorious. On the other hand, I do agree with what some others have said, that when a word is over-used, it loses its impact. Fucking is something that should be done judiciously.
Buzsaw writes: For the most part, my points relating to civil rights had nothing to do with race.
Part of the problem with articulation seems to come from a lack of circumspection. Did you really not stop to think about connecting the decline and fall of western civilization with Martin Luther King?
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 60 of 192 (591470)
11-14-2010 10:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 55 by bluegenes
11-14-2010 7:08 AM
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Re: "...if that is how you spell it..."
bluegenes writes: Ialernvert. I've kwon auobt taht rrcareesh for yreas. It's ccreort taht we can urdatnnesd the stceneenes, but we cnonat raed tehm wtih the smae esae or at nrmaol seped, eplaclisey wehn lnog wrods are ielovvnd.
What bothers me most about that post is that you used the word "kwon" instead of "on". ABE:  As it happens, I did misunderstand what you wrote. I mistook, "I've known about that research for years," for something like, "I've no doubt that...." Mind you, I do the same thing when there are no spelling mistakes. Careful reading is just as important as careful writing. Edited by ringo, : Completely chnaged the point of the post.
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 83 of 192 (591580)
11-14-2010 9:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 80 by frako
11-14-2010 6:48 PM
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frako writes: Ma, ni problema jst raji vidm da se v svojem jeziku pogovarjam pa dej google prevod da bo vedu kaj govorim.
Google Translator ne naredi zelo dobro delo za prevajanje iz slovenskega v angleki jezik. Maybe we should wait until Google comes out with a Buzsaw-to-English Translator. 
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Just Words
hooah212002 writes: Nope, I am calling Buzsaw, the poster, a scumbag. I do not know who the guy sitting behind the computer is.
"The poster" is the guy sitting behind the computer, posting. "Buzsaw" is a nickname, maybe not his legal name but still a name that refers to the person. He may be called "Grandpa" by some or "Buddy" by others or "George" by other others but it's still the person that you're talking to. His on-line persona may be different from his real-life personality but it's still the person that you're talking to. This isn't a fantasy role-playing game; it's a (fairly) serious discussion board. Edited by ringo, : Added "maybe".
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Profanity And Racism
crashfrog writes: Apparently the difference is how many oldsters I have to listen complain about it.
You don't "have" to listen to anything. You're a smart young whipper-snapper. You can probably figure out how to operate the door. That's kinda the point being made here. Nobody "has" to read your posts. Personally, I find your posts worth reading. I can't say the same about hooah's. You have to put something attractive into your posts if you want people to read them. In your case, it's usually knowledge. In my case, it's probably style over substance. In hooah's case, what is it? Can he afford to chase the customers away?
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Reason for the Choice
hooah212002 writes: I've yet to belittle anyone.
You can strangle the definition all you want but calling somebody a "scumbag" is way out of line. It isn't even in the parking lot of the ballpark of acceptable behaviour. You should be ashamed of yourself, if only for making people agree with Buzsaw.
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Emotionally Detached Not Lack of Emotion
crashfrog writes: How reasonable is it, purple, for you to expect debaters to cleave to a perfectly impossible standard?
If we don't set our sights higher than what is "possible", how can we ever improve ourselves?
crashfrog writes: It helps sell the point. That's the purpose of profanity.
I wonder why Wal-Mart doesn't train its greeters to say, "What the fuck do you want, you bastard?"
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Emotionally Detached Not Lack of Emotion
crashfrog writes: ringo writes: If we don't set our sights higher than what is "possible", how can we ever improve ourselves?
Certainly not by faulting others for not achieving the impossible.
Nobody's doing that here. The criticism is contructive. If somebody like hooah wants to be taken seriously, he needs to raise his own sights. Nobody will do it for him.
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Understanding Through Discussion
hooah212002 writes: I don't see any of you as being important enough for anyone to curb their language.
Here's a tip for picking up chicks: Talk to her as if she was the only person in the room. Even if she shoots you down, it's good practice for the one you do care about.
"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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