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Panda
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Message 19 of 299 (593458)
11-27-2010 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
11-27-2010 8:27 AM


Buzsaw writes:
Cavediver writes:
The life I have lived as a Chrsitian has been amazing and wonderful.
You've just hit on one of the evidences of the veracity of the Biblical record.
The life I have lived as an atheist has been amazing and wonderful.
Is that evidence against the veracity of the bible?

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Panda
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Message 161 of 299 (594156)
12-02-2010 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Meldinoor
12-02-2010 4:50 AM


Re: Catch 22
Meldinoor writes:
Did I miss something???
I once nominated one of your posts, partly for your unique ability to respond to Dawn without cursing.
What DWise posted is the normal consequence of a person who has repeatedly tried to hammer the 'square peg' of Dawn's gibberish into the 'round hole' of sense.
Dawn is like Dennis Markuze without the ban.

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Panda
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Message 169 of 299 (594224)
12-02-2010 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Dawn Bertot
12-02-2010 4:30 PM


Re: The slow Navy dude
DM writes:
I know navy people are slow, but I had no idea how slow. Its my name Moron
An insult.
DM writes:
Anger management classes are in order I believe, its my real name Moron
An insult.
DM writes:
Read the entire, Does the IDM follow the SM thread, Ive made it so simple a childish child, such as yourself could understand it
An insult.
DM writes:
How about a formal public debate on design and why it should be taught in the science classroom? Be a Man and step up to the plate
An insult.
DM writes:
M has lost his faith for no reason
An insult.
I see a pattern...
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 170 of 299 (594225)
12-02-2010 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Dawn Bertot
12-02-2010 5:41 PM


Re: Is that the best you've got?
DM writes:
Thank you, so yours are words, without knowledge. You dont have platform to question diddly
An insult.
DM writes:
Or maybe he is speaking to someone as simple as yourself, that is, if he were to explain to you personally in a specific sense exacally how he exists and creates things, you would understand them no better, than, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
An insult.
DM writes:
I cant really explain in specific detail exacally what the feeling or experince of combat is now can I, unless I have witnessed and experinced it personally can I?
A question!
DM writes:
Gods point and logic stands. You dont understand diddly. Youve abandonded your belief without reason or cause
An insult.
I see still see a trend...

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Panda
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Message 184 of 299 (594942)
12-05-2010 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Dawn Bertot
12-05-2010 6:17 PM


Re: The slow IDist
DB writes:
Im sorry, where did I have, "no intention of engaging in an actual debate"
What is your native tongue?
We have people on this forum that speak multiple languages.
Maybe you would have greater success using your first language and having others translate.

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Message 187 of 299 (594948)
12-05-2010 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by Dawn Bertot
12-05-2010 6:36 PM


Re: The slow IDist
DB writes:
Your wasting your time son, intimidation is not a substitute for an actual response to an argument.
I think you do not know what 'intimidation' means.
But since I have just found out that you are American, I am at a loss as to why you don't know what it means.

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Message 196 of 299 (595058)
12-06-2010 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Kairyu
12-06-2010 11:33 AM


Re: please stop
WSW24 writes:
I've been reading the first 6 pages, and this last one. Is it that hard to avoid debate? There are plenty of topics to do that.
Some people like to tell their stories here, sometimes that can be difficult for them. Please don't ruin this topic by arguing. I'm fine with believing people reacting on people expressing doubt in a polite manner, but this is going to far.
What you posted contains much sense.
I lend my support to your comment and hope others agree aswell.

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Panda
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Message 198 of 299 (595074)
12-06-2010 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Kairyu
12-06-2010 12:32 PM


Re: please stop
WSW24 writes:
Doesn't this belong in the faith and belief subforum?
Possibly.
I think it is in Coffee House because Meldinoor didn't want to actually debate anything, and therefore didn't need Moderators' 'discussion approval'.
Maybe it should be moved, but I think that would be Meldinoor's decision to ask.
Perhaps Meldinoor will request a move after reading your posts.

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Panda
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Message 200 of 299 (595101)
12-06-2010 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by Meldinoor
12-06-2010 2:47 PM


Re: Moderator permission requested
If you ask in Report Discussion Problems Here 3.0 (I think) or you might need to post the request in here.
Either way, a mod should see your request.

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Message 216 of 299 (595208)
12-07-2010 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by Kairyu
12-07-2010 12:36 PM


Re: my own story WARNING is very long
Hi WSW24. Welcome to EvC.
WSW24 writes:
Writing this for a while now, and it may be one of the longest posts ever.
...
I hope I didn't exceed the letter limit.
Not even close.
Your post was a very interesting read - thank you for sharing.

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Panda
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Message 219 of 299 (595224)
12-07-2010 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Kairyu
12-07-2010 1:59 PM


Re: my own story WARNING is very long
WSW24 writes:
I find the line between your own minds imaging of god, and possibly actual influence from him to be very blurry. Does it even exist at all?
That is worthy of a thread all of its own.

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Panda
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Message 231 of 299 (595912)
12-11-2010 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by Kairyu
12-11-2010 8:29 AM


WSW24 writes:
I'm been noticing this tread has been rather silent since the deconversion discussion opened.
'Discussion' threads will always be more busy than 'declaration' threads. (People love a good bicker )
I suspect that it is difficult (from a practical point of view) to discuss another person's deconversion.
It takes a certain type of person to argue that your decision was wrong, as noone else was there to share your experiences.
And I would suggest that your post was clearly written if it left people with few questions.
My only reaction to your post is that it looks like you did what you thought was right, even though it was very difficult.
Kudos to you.

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Panda
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Message 279 of 299 (596936)
12-18-2010 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by Kairyu
12-18-2010 9:30 AM


Re: dealing with stuff
WSW24 writes:
I have to say, I'm rather relieved I am now open about my atheistic thoughts, but it's still very confusing. Plus I am still a little in limbo. Being atheist has implications on thoughts about the bible, and life in general. I'm still a little afraid to take a firm atheistic stance on them. It's going to take a while before I've sorted it all out.
For me, it is all an on-going process.
There are things I have thought about and things I haven't; things I have taken a stance on and things I haven't.
I find it makes life more interesting.
WSW24 writes:
On a general note, I have been posting in this topic often lately. I would like to post more on the forum, but I am not really really to debate about certain things. Also haven't got much experience in it. Any suggestions?
The only real advice I have is: "Don't rush your replies".
I find that if I leave my initial reply for a few minutes, I will re-write it and the quality can be massively increased.
I also find that a second read of the original post can show a misunderstanding on my part. (Accidentally misunderstanding your opponent's point makes your reply worthless.)
And always use the 'Preview' button!

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