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Message 9 of 24 (595256)
12-07-2010 5:35 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Fred Williams
12-06-2010 9:27 PM

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Message 11 of 24 (595260)
12-07-2010 5:48 PM

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12-07-2010 5:40 PM

jar writes:

It is hard though to cram so many irrelevancies into one post, so gotta give him credit for that.

He is a proponent of the 'gish gallup', I expect.

Is it possible for me to post a reply in the Peanut Gallery to a post in this thread?

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Message 14 of 24 (595263)
12-07-2010 6:03 PM

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12-07-2010 5:49 PM

Dr. A writes:

You're that guy from that evolutionfairytale site, aren't you?

He is.

For those interested in doing the chat show: here is a good example of how Fred Williams 'debates'.
I suggest people read that before making a final decision.

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Message 16 of 24 (595290)
12-07-2010 8:18 PM

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12-07-2010 7:38 PM

Percy writes:

But it's a style of debate that mops the floor with evolutionist arguments.

The aspect that I found most dishonest is his retroactive comments to his opponents rebuttals, ensuring that he got the last word.
If that is Fred Williams' idea of a fair and honest debate then I doubt anyone would be interested in taking part.

Percy writes:

Do we really care what evangelical's believe? Does anyone really care whether evangelicals understand the science behind the 15 points that Fred claims to refute? I don't think so.

I agree that what an individual person believes is rarely important (on it's own).
But the point of linking Fred's 'debating' was to forewarn anyone tempted to take part in the radio show.
(Arguing a case poorly is detrimental to the case.)

Percy writes:

I think all we really want is for them to stop interfering with public school science education. How would you make progress toward that goal in a creation/evolution debate?

I feel that the EvC debate is for people who are not sure.
I am not referring to the participants, but to the 'viewers'.
We cannot rely on people 'automatically' understanding that creationists mis-represent evolution, and so we have to be as vocal as creationists.

To answer your question: education is the solution.

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