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Author Topic:   Can a valid, supportable reason be offered for deconversion
Coragyps
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Message 43 of 566 (595579)
12-09-2010 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dawn Bertot
12-08-2010 3:15 AM


DB - I, too, will cite "thinking about Christian teachings in an adult fashion and finding them to have no basis in reality" as a good reason to deconvert. "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things," is how your book puts it.
And where are you, by the way? I'd like your take on some of these many answers you have here.
Edited by Coragyps, : fix quote

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Coragyps
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Message 253 of 566 (596832)
12-17-2010 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Dawn Bertot
12-17-2010 2:53 AM


Re: scriptural unity
Without the concept of and belief in inspiration from God, as the prophets claimed, one could not even begin to trust whether the writers were the claimed writers....
Untrue. Scholars who have actually studied these things can determine with very high certainty that, say, the books of the Torah were not written by some cat named Moses that left Egypt about 3200 years ago, but rather by some anonymous priestly lads 800 years later. No gods need be involved one way or the other.

"God is Santa Claus for adults."
- Mad Kallie

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Coragyps
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Message 330 of 566 (597448)
12-21-2010 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by Dawn Bertot
12-21-2010 6:17 PM


Re: How to test Dawn Bertot's writings.
"When the Assyrian invades our land
and marches through our fortresses,
we will raise against him seven shepherds,
even eight leaders of men."
This one nails not only the fact that Christ is the only fulfilment....
How does it do that, DB? Are Romans really Assyrians? Does the New Testament talk about "seven shepherds,
even eight leaders of men?"
Or are "Assyrians" modern-day Iranians, and you are citing as "fulfilled prophecy" some Armageddon bullshit that hasn't happened?

"God is Santa Claus for adults."
- Mad Kallie

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Coragyps
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Message 339 of 566 (597465)
12-21-2010 7:13 PM
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12-21-2010 7:02 PM


Re: How to test Dawn Bertot's writings.
There is an involvement of the current events and future events in the prophecy
the shepherds and leaders may have reference to some, then current even in Gods plan or they may have an explanation in the time of Christ
They may be a symbol of Gods power then or now. The numbers themself may be symbolic
Oh, thanks! That sure does clear that all up! Or should I say, "that may clear something up, but it beats the hell out of me what?"

"God is Santa Claus for adults."
- Mad Kallie

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