Genetic Equidistance: A Puzzle in Biology?

I am afraid discussion with Livingstone will be like arguing with a brick wall.He seems to have already made up his mind on a lot of things and discussion may be futile. I think it is important that those that are debating with him understand where he is coming from. These snippets I have found on the web give a good idea of how his arguments here tie into his overall beliefs.

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Hello, my name is Livingstone Morford (Morford being an alias and a variation of my real name, for anonymity).

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I am a staunch Intelligent Design proponent, and an avid opponent of Darwinian evolution.

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(1) I hold that evolution can occur to an extent. There are some things that the mindless processes of evolution can achieve, but there are some things that are beyond the edge of evolution (Behe 2007). This edge is defined by limited evolutionary potential (Pitman 2004). This limited evolutionary potential is limited due to biochemical and molecular constraints. In short, there is a gap that separate between protein-based structures. This gap can be defined as such: a gap of neutral stretches of amino acids (neutral in that they do not confer any advantage), so that natural selection cannot select for these sequences. This means that evolution must evolve very specified structures solely through random mutation, which is blind. This gap that separates protein based systems from each other, if on the order of 100 amino acids, means that the odds of that protein evolving is 20^100, a massive number. This is the limits to evolution.

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Suppose for example, that amphibians had protein Y, and reptiles had protein X, which amphibians did not have. Further suppose that protein X demands over 100 specifically arranged amino acid residues in order to function. This would mean that amphibians could not evolve into reptiles since evolution could not produce that protein. This is how there are limits to evolution.

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(2) How was life designed on earth? I advance a model where the intelligent designer designed life through a mechanism, namely through the recombining of DNA sequences of different organisms to engineer other organisms (recombinant DNA). There are many more details to this of course, such as directed mutagenesis, etc., but I only covered the main mechanism. Directed enzyme mutagenesis can easily account for the design of protein structures.

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(3) I accept the creationist views that view intelligent design as a science, but I oppose those views that hold that intelligent design is not a science, or that it is a work of Satan, or anything like that. In short: I can be a creationist's best ally when debating a staunch evolutionist who opposes both creationism and intelligent design, but I will also defend intelligent design theory from those creationists who hold that it is not science, etc.

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In Christ,
Livingstone Morford

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I have used this argument for the Bible's divine origin against atheists so many times, and it's always a little bit funny when they get stumped:
http://www.idscience.org/.../an-amazing-new-biblical-finding

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And that evidence?

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The Bible mentions five colors in Hebrew: red (adom), Yellow (tzahov), green (yerakon), blue (tchelet) and magenta (argaman). One curious observation is immediately apparent, in that this list not only includes the primary colors - red, yellow and blue but it also includes the only two other colors green and magenta that are necessary to produce the complete color palate for four color printing. As interesting as this observation is it pales in comparison to a discovery made by Haim Shore a professor of Statistics and Engineering at Ben-Gurion University. What Professor Shore discovered is that the numerical values of the Hebrew words for these colors is correlated with the spectral wave frequency for these colors.

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Hebrew is an alpha numeric language - in that every letter is also equal to a number. So if you add the values of each letter you get a number for the total value of the word. This is commonly used in gematria, the Rabbinic Cabalistic system of Biblical interpretation and prophesy, but what Shore did is not gematria. After calculating a total value for each word, he then plotted them on a graph. He plotted the numerical value of each word on the horizontal graph and the color’s wave frequency on the vertical axis . To Shore’s amazement he discovered that the graph yielded a straight line.

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It’s a universal principle of engineering that if you have two sets of data, you put them in ascending order, plot one set on the horizontal axis and the other on a vertical axis and if they fall on a straight line, that means that both data sets are measuring the same thing, only on a different scale. I was astonished. The five points on the graph formed a straight line, which means that the names of the colors related directly to their wave frequencies. It was purely a statistical analysis Shore said,I didn’t manipulate a single number in doing the analysis. When I saw this result I was stunned. I was completely astonished. Then I went on to other words in the Hebrew Bible, plotting the value of the letters against known scientific data. The whole thing blew me away. Shore went on to investigate similar cases in the Bible and so far has preformed over 20 different analyses with statistically verifiable findings, for example he has found a similar correlation between numerical word value a planetary diameters.

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Shore began as a Bible skeptic and did not expect to make any of these findings. He says that he does not want to tell anyone what his findings mean but their theological implications are unavoidable.

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No webpage found at provided URL: SourceDamn, that might make a great thread. I might have to start a topic on the bible and colours.Edited by Theodoric, : Fix links

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