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frako
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Message 4 of 15 (597850)
12-24-2010 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
12-23-2010 10:20 PM


I have one problem it can be abused if there is not enough control. One such example would be young couples tend not to get married when they have a child so the mother is classified as a sole parent and automatically entitled to child support from the states along with other benefits. No one bothers to check up on them to see if she actually is a sole provider.

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frako
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From: slovenija
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Message 7 of 15 (597874)
12-25-2010 5:41 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Taz
12-24-2010 11:00 PM


I fail to see how 'welfare moms' legitimizes taking away safety nets for the real thing.
It is just a slight flaw in the system that could be corrected if the social workers and staff would actually do what they are supposed to do and check up on people like that. And if politicians would do what they have to do and write laws that do not have loop holes, sometimes when i read our laws i wonder if preschool children wrote them.

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frako
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Message 9 of 15 (597930)
12-25-2010 5:23 PM
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12-25-2010 3:28 PM


Well this was a very wide spread problem in Yugoslavia welfare was way to good there was only a small difference between welfare and minimal wage say 20% and loads of people who where lazy abused the system why work if you can sit at home and get the same cash.
Though now things are stabilizing you only get a bit more then half (sometimes up to 90% though i dunno why or when) of their average wage for 10% of the time you where employed. If you have 4 years of employment under your belt you get abbout 6 months welfare if you lose your job, not if you quit.
But our system is also lacking on the contra scale if parents have small wages they get benefits for their children tough in my opinion those benefits are to small.
Do not get me wrong i am all for "socialism" though i do think the system needs some work.

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frako
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Message 11 of 15 (598189)
12-29-2010 5:50 AM
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12-29-2010 2:34 AM


Do you have any evidence of such?
You can interview my neighbor he never held a job in Yugoslavia for very long, now he has to and he still abuses the system when he is no longer alleageble for welfare he gets a job, works for a bit then does his best to get fired. When he is back on welfare he gets a job that pays cash and does not get him listed as employed (illegal in our country because of welfare).
People want to work, but there simply aren't any jobs for them to have.
I know people want to work here to and dose who really want to usually find jobs. Tough when i was looking for 2 workers 30 applied 25 of them only wanted me to sign the paper that they where here for the interview, one of them did not even want to come out of his car he pointed the paper out of the window.
That may be, but you are making blanket statements rather than specifics and your examples are about things that are of little effect.
Now you have some examples, as i said i am all for socialism tough it does need more control.

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