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Author Topic:   Can a valid, supportable reason be offered for deconversion
ramoss
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Message 380 of 566 (597866)
12-25-2010 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 376 by Dawn Bertot
12-23-2010 10:20 AM


Re: How to test Dawn Bertot's writings.
They were fulfilled, "inspiration aside". If I can read the prophet of Old and understand his words, then view Christ as given in the NT gospels, can I not see the fulfillment. I dont need to start with an assumption, I just need to read the claims of the NT
When I look at the claims of the New Testament, and see the original context of the 'prophecies' that Jesus was supposed to have fulfilled, I find that each and every prophecy falls into some specific categories.
1) Out of context quotes.
2) Passages that are written to that are not prophecies.
3) After the fact claims.
4) Passages that are written to.
5) Mistranslations.
I consider those deceit. And , the creditlity of the message gets destroyed when I been lied to.

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ramoss
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Message 424 of 566 (598163)
12-28-2010 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 383 by Dawn Bertot
12-25-2010 7:39 PM


Re: How to test Dawn Bertot's writings.
It seems to be a tad arrogant to say that I don't know the Jewish scriptures.
Except for an Ad hominem attack against me I don't see any value in what you say.
But, examples would be claiming Isaiah 7:14 is about Jesus.. that Isaiah 9:6 is about Jesus, and Isaiah 53 is about Jesus.
If you read Isaiah 7:14 in CONTEXT ... you will see that it is about Isaiah's son, not about Jesus. The term ALMAH that Christians claim is 'Virgin' is actually 'young woman'.. not virgin, and in context, the woman was Isaiah's wife .. This can be seen in 8:3-4, where "I went to the prophetess and insured she conceived'..
The fact that many evangelistic Christians continually misrepresent those passages to make it about Jesus is a wonderful reason for deconversion.

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