Size of the universe

I just find it amusing that evolutionists (within the last 30 years) have come to agree with creationists that the universe got to be 75% of it's current size in less than a week.Jar, you can google "cosmology inflation" for more information.

Actually, evolution (as usually understood) is about biology and not about cosmology. You seem to be mixing things up.As for cosmology, as far as I know the inflation model is an hypothesis. It is not settled science.

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Jesus was a liberal hippie

Of course to say that "evolutionists (within the last 30 years) have come to agree with creationists that the universe got to be 75% of it's current size in less than a week" is simply word salad, meaningless as well as being factually wrong and another example of Creationist misrepresentation.The first stars did not even evolve until millions of years after the Big Bang.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Can you explain what evolution has to do with cosmology?Please put your answer in a coherent form so that we might understand you.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

Jar, do you believe that the universe was 75% of the size it is now within a second of the Big Bang?You said you disagreed with my statement that "evolutionists (within the last 30 years) have come to agree with creationists that the universe got to be 75% of it's current size in less than a week". I did not mention stars.

I think that is just word salad, something with no meaning. What does the size of the universe mean and what would it have to do with anything?The universe is far more than simply volume. And the Creationist descriptions and myths do not correspond with anything that has been seen.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Jar, I am just asking a question. You can skip the derogatory remarks.Do you believe that the universe was 75% of the size it is now within a second of the Big Bang?

No idea even what that means. Sorry but that is just word salad.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Jar, the universe is 90+ billion light years in size at present. Do you believe it was 50+ billion light years in size within a second after the Big Bang?

Actually I think it is even bigger than that right now. No idea, but that simply has no meaning anyway.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

With all due respect, the multi-verse theory (imo hypothesis, if that) as well as BB theory assumes some ambiguous priories no more plausible than some SM incompatible creationist priories.Reality gets swept under the mathematical rug.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Really Buz, this tired shit again? Please explain how the math is flawed, show your work.

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soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
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*not an actual doctor

There comes a time when the math and reality become incompatible beyond imagination. There comes a time when the math goes beyond the probability of the Buzsaw hypothesis which is more realistically compatible with the basic (abe: I say basic and fundamental) observable laws of science and probability theory.The definition of life rests on one or the other. Imo probability favors the Buzsaw priory of life and the Universe.ABE: Perhaps it would be helpful cite one plausible probability theory. In the Bayesian Probability Theory, there are two views; the subjective and the objective. Edited by Buzsaw, : as showin in contextEdited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Please show where the math is wrong, show your work. Really Buz if you, who's science education is at best at high school level from several decades ago, can declare that modern science is wrong then it should be trivial for you to do the math to show it.

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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

At least a couple of members are objecting to the use of the terms "evolution" and/or "evolutionist" outside of biological considerations. I feel this objection is without merit.Certainly, dragging cosmology into a biological evolution topic is wrong, but biology doesn't get exclusive use of the term evolution - "Cosmological evolution" is a valid subject, and those supporting the scientific perspective could be termed "cosmological evolutionists" or the shorter "evolutionist".I'm sure there's a good existing topic about this question, but I couldn't track it down. If someone wishes to pursue the mater, they should propose a new topic.NO REPLIES, AT THIS TOPIC, TO THIS MESSAGE.Adminnemooseus