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Author Topic:   Can a valid, supportable reason be offered for deconversion
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Message 456 of 566 (598709)
01-01-2011 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by Dawn Bertot
01-01-2011 10:35 PM


Re: other scriptures
Dawn Bertot writes:
son, you simply dont understand the reasoning process and you have missed the point of the thread.
A valid logical argument set out in logical form, is all I was looking for, not all this rehtoric you are putting forward
See Message 10 and Message 65.
Two reasonable logical reasons for deconversion.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 505 of 566 (598781)
01-02-2011 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 502 by dwise1
01-02-2011 5:17 AM


Re: What does Christian Doctrine say ... ?
dwise1 writes:
The fundamentalist teaching was that the Law was set up so that nobody could keep it completely throughout their lives, which necessitated a Redeemer.
Which, of course, is a total misrepresentation of Judaism, or the the first ten days of Tishrei would be unnecessary. The Jew understood that; not sure Paul did.

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Message 510 of 566 (598800)
01-02-2011 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by Dawn Bertot
01-02-2011 5:02 PM


Towards the topic.
Dawn Bertot writes:
Sure there real, but like skepticism itself it serves no useful purpose and burns out quickly
You fellas have no real impact, because after all these years, you still make up a percentage so small its barley worth mentioning, correct
if you are so successful shouldnt the numbers be greater after thousands of years.
What happened Panda, what went wrong?
Dawn Bertot
HUH. As if you actually had a clue what Christianity was all about or had even even read the Bible.
Now back towards the topic.
As you know valid reasons have been presented. I presented two long, long, long, long ago back in Message 10 and Message 62 and in Message 65 and in ...
Now I can add another.
It is reasonable to deconvert when you find that the proponents of some religion like the one you seem to market are unable to present any convincing reasons to adopt the religion they market.
Sorry but you have presented absolutely no reason that I should consider your faith anything more than a pitiful little joke.
So, three good reasons to deconvert.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 533 of 566 (598916)
01-03-2011 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Dawn Bertot
01-03-2011 5:28 PM


on foundations
Dawn Bertot writes:
Most of those people dont have firm foundation to support what little they believe
And what difference does that make?
Dawn Bertot writes:
I might remind you again that it is you the skeptic and Atheist that is in the low percentage as far as beliefs go.
And I am a Christian, yet so far you have failed to show me any reason I should not throw away all the beliefs you try to market.
Edited by jar, : lost an 'a'

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Message 540 of 566 (598950)
01-04-2011 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 537 by Dawn Bertot
01-03-2011 8:06 PM


Re: misrepresentation
Dawn Bertot writes:
Without it the prophecy is really worthless. Because we kn0ow mewn and men alone cannot predict the future
HUH?
Of course men can predict the future.
BUT, Biblical Prophecy is not about predicting the future. It is a Godly dope-slap, God telling man that if they continue a certain behavior this is what God will do.

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Message 542 of 566 (598953)
01-04-2011 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 541 by bluescat48
01-04-2011 11:52 AM


Re: other scriptures
Well there is some evidence. For example looking at the Isaiah story we can find evidence of the things mentioned actually happening, but only at that time, not over 600 years later.

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jar
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Message 553 of 566 (599008)
01-04-2011 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 550 by Dawn Bertot
01-04-2011 4:52 PM


Re: misrepresentation
For someone that claims to be logical you sure do get everything ass backwards.
If you claim that the words in Isaiah are not Isaiah's words but God's words, then Matthew is simply misrepresenting God, quote mining, being intellectually dishonest.
If then you want to claim that what is written in Matthew is not Matthew's words but rather God's words, then you have simply demonstrated that God was intellectually dishonest and really not very bright.
In fact, this one post of yours is more than sufficient reason to deconvert from the religion you try to market. Why should anyone worship such a dunce of a god?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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